Racism is racism

SWP's back said:
Well then, the laws an ass.

Only when people disagree with it - in this case disagreeing that the law states anyone singling out a persons nationality, colour of skin, etc in an abusive manner is in the wrong.

In general terms those that do find it acceptable are of an older generation where it was the norm.
 
argyle said:
SWP's back said:
Well then, the laws an ass.

Only when people disagree with it - in this case disagreeing that the law states anyone singling out a persons nationality, colour of skin, etc in an abusive manner is in the wrong.

In general terms those that do find it acceptable are of an older generation where it was the norm.
Bloody hell talk about righteous do you think only the young known the difference between right and wrong (and that open to debate) how old do you think the Germans who were murdering women and children were,it just depends who's doing the brain washing. Its how your brought up tells you the difference between right and wrong not how old you are.
 
i kne albert davy said:
argyle said:
SWP's back said:
Well then, the laws an ass.

Only when people disagree with it - in this case disagreeing that the law states anyone singling out a persons nationality, colour of skin, etc in an abusive manner is in the wrong.

In general terms those that do find it acceptable are of an older generation where it was the norm.
Bloody hell talk about righteous do you think only the young known the difference between right and wrong (and that open to debate) how old do you think the Germans who were murdering women and children were,it just depends who's doing the brain washing. Its how your brought up tells you the difference between right and wrong not how old you are.

Don't know where you have got all that from. I said in general terms it was the norm years ago for people to use abuse which is unacceptable now. Right or wrong has nothing to do with it.
 
goatinho said:
i fuckin despair at some people these days.
argie ****
spanish twat
french fucker
who gives a fuck
who is it hurting?
do you really think tevez/ballotelli/any one with even one bollock would take offence to it?
call me an english twat , or for that matter a fucking honky i really do not give a fuck.
get over it.
are we allowed to call any one anything these days with out someone taking offence to it (which usually isnt even the person being called!)
can we call some ones mum a slag?
can we call some one a spotty twat?
big nose?
fat arse?
what if we dont like someone? are we not allowed to say anything in case we offend them?
"excuse me sir but i really dont like you" is that ok????
fuck me some people really are mard arses

Why can't someone just be a 'twat'?
Why bring up their country of birth, complexion or arse size?
If someone pisses you off so much that you wanna be derogatory about them then 'fuck off you dick' usually does the trick.
 
stonerblue said:
goatinho said:
i fuckin despair at some people these days.
argie ****
spanish twat
french fucker
who gives a fuck
who is it hurting?
do you really think tevez/ballotelli/any one with even one bollock would take offence to it?
call me an english twat , or for that matter a fucking honky i really do not give a fuck.
get over it.
are we allowed to call any one anything these days with out someone taking offence to it (which usually isnt even the person being called!)
can we call some ones mum a slag?
can we call some one a spotty twat?
big nose?
fat arse?
what if we dont like someone? are we not allowed to say anything in case we offend them?
"excuse me sir but i really dont like you" is that ok????
fuck me some people really are mard arses

Why can't someone just be a 'twat'?
Why bring up their country of birth, complexion or arse size?
If someone pisses you off so much that you wanna be derogatory about them then 'fuck off you dick' usually does the trick.
You've honestly never called someone a "[insert descriptive word] fuck/twat]" before?

Bollocks.
 
argyle said:
glen quagmire said:
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
No,it isn't,as neither the Argentines or the Irish are a race.


Rendering the thread redundant.

Thank you and goodnight.

Not really.

Public Order Act 1986 - part3: section 18 - prohibits, by its Part 3, expressions of racial hatred, which is defined as hatred against a group of persons by reason of the group's colour, race, nationality (including citizenship) or ethnic or national origins.

So since 1986 'racism' now encompasses more than just 'race' but also nationality, and national origin.

The guy in question can call Tevez or Balotell lots of names, but when he chooses to bring nationality or colour into his rants he could by law since 1986 be escorted from the ground.

Again for those saying 'my friend calls me this and that,' the law takes into account the context of which things are said. So if terms are used between mates, or used as friendly banter then there is no issue.

Yes, really. Laws define terms to allow interpretation by those who administer them. "For the purposes of these Regulations" is your clue. "For the purposes of these Regulations red shall mean orange." "For the purposes of these Regulations use of the word Ferguson shall be deemed to include a reference to "red-nosed twat"".

Including nationalities in a definition of racism in a piece of legislation doesn't change the commonly accepted meaning of a term except strictly in the context of THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF LEGISLATION.

Guy should've been thrown out, and he was exposed under the law. But he isn't automatically a racist (in the real definition of the word) for using those terms.
 
I don't understand what the Op's problem is. Aren't we the same football club that used to sing

His neckscar proved he lost his head
tevez, Tevez
He'll never shag a sexy bird
Tevez, Tevez
The argie twat, the ugly ****, they've sawn his head on back to front
Carlos Tevez herman munster head


Now we're complaining that referring to someone as an Argie **** is racist. Granted it probably is but talk about double fucking standards
 

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