Red Card for Glen Johnson?!?!?!

[colourmeblue]

Gerrards club recently issued a written statement requesting that a player be charged by the FA.

So he can fuck right off.

He can write?

Stevie Starfish is everything that Kompany isnt and vice versa. Never in a million years would he hold a candle (pun intended) to our captain. Makes you realise your luck when you compare these two. Ill bred arrogant tosser and a thug to boot.

 

[Plain Speaking]

in reality,both were not even a booking.However if Kompany`s was a confirmed red card by the faceless panel at the FA then there should be some consistancy in the space of 3 days and Johnson should have gone,there is too much at stake now for such obvious inconsistency by alleged professional referees.All we want is consistancy,not just for certain clubs and certain players.

What the FA seemed to be doing is trying to "back up" whatever the decisions given by the match day ref.

Personally I would love to see foul play citings and camera technology used like Rugby so the right decisions can be given to help referees, eg at penalties and sendings off. However I cant see it happening in my lifetime.

(A cynic would say its easier to hide corruption with the present system!)

 

[Gary James]

What the FA seemed to be doing is trying to "back up" whatever the decisions given by the match day ref.

Personally I would love to see foul play citings and camera technology used like Rugby so the right decisions can be given to help referees, eg at penalties and sendings off. However I cant see it happening in my lifetime.

(A cynic would say its easier to hide corruption with the present system!)

I agree that video technology should be used. It's so easy for instant replays to be given and appropriate judgements made that I really cannot see any logical reason why they wouldn't do it. I'd much rather wait a few seconds and get a right decision than sit there watching as players argue with the ref and try to get others sent off. I'm sure the arguing and referee initimidation takes as long as a replay would!

Obviously, there would need to be some sort of system in place to prevent managers/captains forever calling for replays - but that could be managed with a set number of appeals allowed.

It all seems so sensible.... it'll never happen!

 

[mancboy123]

In the nfl the coaches get 2 challenges per half i believe once they are gone they are gone and you cannot make anymore challenges. Also every scoring play is reviewable.

For me that system would be fine. The Only real reason i can see for not using video technology is that it would highlight on an offical level how useless todays refs are there could be no more hiding from the FA, there could be no more the ref deemed it this way so there you go.

The problem with this is that the rules are so ambiguous it is ridiculous and the independent panel it turns out isnt that independent when it has friends of managers on there.

 

[pauldominic]

In all the threads about Kompany after Sunday I said that if Gerrard did the same to Silva on Wednesday, we'd all be up in arms about it. Well how convenient, it did, just different names, and funny old thing a different decision.

The 2 tackles side by side are not hugely different, so what do we want ? Kompany to get off his red card, or do we want Johnson banned ? For me both decisions should be exactly the same, the problem isn't an "agenda" its the shit standard of referees, and both involved in these cases are just that.

For me, neither are straight reds. BUT if we're sending VK off we have to by default also send GJ off. That's why I'm up in arms, because it stinks.

I want the FA to tell us all who got it wrong, Foy or Mason, because one of them did. They are effectively telling us that both were correct, but this cannot be the case. Which leads me to think there is an agenda because even the FA cannot be stupid enough to try to tell us that both Foy and Mason made the correct decision. The line about not being able to intervene with the GJ one because Mason 'saw' the incident and decided it was a fair tackle is nothing more than a cop out.

It's about time the FA were made accountable for these ludicrous decisions and cop outs.

I couldn't put it better myself. One referee got it wrong and with so much at stake this situation is intolerable.

 

[Dirty Harry]

What the FA seemed to be doing is trying to "back up" whatever the decisions given by the match day ref.

Personally I would love to see foul play citings and camera technology used like Rugby so the right decisions can be given to help referees, eg at penalties and sendings off. However I cant see it happening in my lifetime.

(A cynic would say its easier to hide corruption with the present system!)

I agree that video technology should be used. It's so easy for instant replays to be given and appropriate judgements made that I really cannot see any logical reason why they wouldn't do it. I'd much rather wait a few seconds and get a right decision than sit there watching as players argue with the ref and try to get others sent off. I'm sure the arguing and referee initimidation takes as long as a replay would!

Obviously, there would need to be some sort of system in place to prevent managers/captains forever calling for replays - but that could be managed with a set number of appeals allowed.

It all seems so sensible.... it'll never happen!

I'd be more than happy if it just happened on what most accept as real and true probable game changing moments, like disputed goals, sendings off and penalties, if that works out well then they can move on from there, but like you and others say, can't see that happening.

 

[mancboy123]

The issue with the FA and FIFA is that it is not a fair and independent body, the people in the body are not subject to any kind of election they are just handed jobs based on the fact that they played once or kissed enough ass to be there.

The FA is in control of the national game so it should be an elected body now I know that everyone believes that the refs are against them etc etc but if the FA were an elected and transparent body then it would at least make them come and explain why they take certain decisions and come to certain conclusions and with everyone having a vested interest the fairness of certain decisions would make the accountable when coming up for re elections etc.

 

[BlueTony]

What the FA seemed to be doing is trying to "back up" whatever the decisions given by the match day ref.

Personally I would love to see foul play citings and camera technology used like Rugby so the right decisions can be given to help referees, eg at penalties and sendings off. However I cant see it happening in my lifetime.

(A cynic would say its easier to hide corruption with the present system!)

I agree that video technology should be used. It's so easy for instant replays to be given and appropriate judgements made that I really cannot see any logical reason why they wouldn't do it. I'd much rather wait a few seconds and get a right decision than sit there watching as players argue with the ref and try to get others sent off. I'm sure the arguing and referee initimidation takes as long as a replay would!

Obviously, there would need to be some sort of system in place to prevent managers/captains forever calling for replays - but that could be managed with a set number of appeals allowed.

It all seems so sensible.... it'll never happen!

Totally agree, all you need to do is limit the number of calls a captain (Because he is the one one the pitch therefore closer to the referee) can make. An incorect call loses you one of your appeals, a correct one doesn't (cos the ref fucked up [Again"!]) .........easy

 

[pauldominic]

What the FA seemed to be doing is trying to "back up" whatever the decisions given by the match day ref.

Personally I would love to see foul play citings and camera technology used like Rugby so the right decisions can be given to help referees, eg at penalties and sendings off. However I cant see it happening in my lifetime.

(A cynic would say its easier to hide corruption with the present system!)

I agree that video technology should be used. It's so easy for instant replays to be given and appropriate judgements made that I really cannot see any logical reason why they wouldn't do it. I'd much rather wait a few seconds and get a right decision than sit there watching as players argue with the ref and try to get others sent off. I'm sure the arguing and referee initimidation takes as long as a replay would!

Obviously, there would need to be some sort of system in place to prevent managers/captains forever calling for replays - but that could be managed with a set number of appeals allowed.

It all seems so sensible.... it'll never happen!

We should just adopt Rugby's approach lock stock and barrel: -

1. Captains share responsibility with the referee for their team's discipline.
2. The only players who have the right to talk to the referee are the 2 captains.
3. Video technology when a game changing decision has to be made.
4. A citing commissioner if any foul conduct is missed.
5. An impartial observer in the stands for assessing the referee's performance.

Like you say its so sensible it won't happen.

 

[fathellensbellend]

the biggest hypocrisy for me, is the governing body whom we are asking for sense and consistency, are the very same body who sent 4 solictors with them to appeal rooneys euro 3 game ban, which was far more pre meditated and deserving of a suspension than vinny's tackle.

the only question i would be asking is how can we take you seriously when you are totally inconsistent, and happy to try and bend the rules when it suits your own agenda.

the events of the last week have damaged city's season, and added to the absolute joke decisions we have been on the end of, it really does make you wonder if the game is not corrupt.