Ref Watch City Games - 2023/24

Bluesince1979 said:
Ive asked this question before and not got an answer… (people always think im having a go, im really not, im just really interested in peoples opinions on it)…

How do yiu think its bent?
Directions from above? I.e prem league bosses like masters instructing refs to not give/give certain decisions to certain teams?

Or is it referees taking bribes off betting syndicates , that sort of thing?
Click to expand...
I think it's bent in the way teams are refereed! The LotG are not applied by each ref in the same way, and the way each ref applies them from one half to t'other! There are instances, many instances, where the LotG are totally ignored. You've only got to look at the shambles that has surrounded the 'handball' law over the last four or five seasons. It's got to the point where blatant handballs are not called and the ball grazing a hair or fingertip are called. Consistency has always been an issue but the refs have the control to be far more consistent than they are! I am left with the impression that there isn't a referee who isn't personally a miserable bastard and some referee that way. Yer'd get more consistency if the infringements were sorted out with a raffle.
 
waspish said:
Pep always says we have to be better we get no favours! On another day Haaland would have scored 2 of his 4/5 chances and we win the game comfortably. We win Tuesday we start another run of winning league games
Click to expand...
Which is spot-on as a professionals' attitude to the game.

But it does not mean that we as supporters should ignore the blatant way in which the LOTG are applied differently to City compared with other clubs.

Yesterday the continual un-carded drip drip drip of fouls by Caicedo was made all the more astonishing when Silva was then booked in the 2nd half for his 1st offence.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Refs have good and bad games too though. He won’t have seen the handball and VAR seems to have been switched off by Webb.

I left the ground thinking about Haaland’s misses more than the referee, but obviously hadn’t seen any contentious decision back at that point.
Click to expand...
Well, I'll turn up on Tuesday and hope the ref we have delivers his game of the season. I won't hold my breath, though!
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Refs have good and bad games too though. He won’t have seen the handball and VAR seems to have been switched off by Webb.

I left the ground thinking about Haaland’s misses more than the referee, but obviously hadn’t seen any contentious decision back at that point.
Click to expand...

I thought the same & I like that Pep also does. I don’t think it’s a bad point.
 
Bluesince1979 said:
Ive asked this question before and not got an answer… (people always think im having a go, im really not, im just really interested in peoples opinions on it)…

How do yiu think its bent?
Directions from above? I.e prem league bosses like masters instructing refs to not give/give certain decisions to certain teams?

Or is it referees taking bribes off betting syndicates , that sort of thing?
Click to expand...
Instructions from above I think.

I used to watch my lad play rugby alongside a premier League ref. No names but you can work it out.
I was giving him some gentle stick about sending SWP off the day before, and he was defending the decision, all very amicably.

Then he got a phone call and moved away to take it. When he came back he was furious and told me the "powers that be" had told him to reverse it so the card was rescinded. He said the reason was something to do with "ongoing negotiations" or some such, nothing to do with the decision itself. Then in the media it said he'd changed his mind on seeing the video. That was total bollox.
 
city saint said:
was at the game but just watched the walker one on motd there is no way liverpool or utd dont get that awarded
Click to expand...
Maybe - but I don't think it's a penalty.

Imagine Walker as the defender, and Sterling the attacker. You'd 100% expect a foul against Walker.

Walker is slightly behind Sterling, he's the one further from the ball, stretches, isn't close to getting a touch on the ball, and trips Sterling.
 
MoK said:
Instructions from above I think.

I used to watch my lad play rugby alongside a premier League ref. No names but you can work it out.
I was giving him some gentle stick about sending SWP off the day before, and he was defending the decision, all very amicably.

Then he got a phone call and moved away to take it. When he came back he was furious and told me the "powers that be" had told him to reverse it so the card was rescinded. He said the reason was something to do with "ongoing negotiations" or some such, nothing to do with the decision itself. Then in the media it said he'd changed his mind on seeing the video. That was total bollox.
Click to expand...
The only game I can recall SWP getting sent off was Everton at home, we won 3-1 think Anelka got the goals.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
When was the last footballer to be sent off for time wasting in the Premier League?
Click to expand...
Two yellow cards is pretty common, whether the first or second is for time wasting is pretty irrelevant, isn't it?

Plenty of players have got yellow cards this season for kicking the ball away (Ayew for Palace vs dippers in about the 60th min springs to mind) and that's the only one I can remember where a 1st yellow for time-wasting then got a second yellow/red (listed for statistical purposes as a "bad foul" but it wasn't). Do I also remember a player getting booked against liverpool when VanDick kicked the ball at him (with the singular purpose of getting him booked) from a free kick and then that player got a second yellow later in the match? Don't know and I can't be arsed trawling through stats on a Sunday in order to prove a point.

If the refs consistently gave yellows for other forms of time-wasting as they now do for kicking the ball away (but it's difficult to do, how long is too long to take a throw in/goal kick/free kick?) I'm certain there'd be many more cases of it
 
That prick last night really went after us and had a clear agenda. The idea that a jumped up little nobody can come to our home and take the piss like he did with the help of his mates at Stockley Park and walk away laughing his bollocks off, just like he was laughing and joking with Pochettino when they emerged after half time really pisses me off. of course we are all City fans but the give away if one was needed was the lack of injury time. If that’s anyone else they get at least six or seven minutes, especially when the keeper had been booked for time wasting, numerous subs, a couple of VAR “checks” and several feigned injuries. The agenda against us clear and organised, it’s obvious the club can’t or won’t do anything so we have to suck it up and hope our players can beat the officials as well.
 
Gray said:
Pissed me off when we were well on top and a Chelsea player feigned injury so the rest of them could rush to the touchline for a tactics meeting. The whistling wanker was very slow to react to it.
Click to expand...
Yeah like when he stopped the game because Gallagher had lost a pube and Chelsea all went for a team talk.
The ref then started to wave his arms telling them to get back on the pitch.
Don't stop the game for fuck all then you thick twat and they won't be able to walk off for cosy chats
 
the-ecstacy-of-eight said:
Two yellow cards is pretty common, whether the first or second is for time wasting is pretty irrelevant, isn't it?

Plenty of players have got yellow cards this season for kicking the ball away (Ayew for Palace vs dippers in about the 60th min springs to mind) and that's the only one I can remember where a 1st yellow for time-wasting then got a second yellow/red (listed for statistical purposes as a "bad foul" but it wasn't). Do I also remember a player getting booked against liverpool when VanDick kicked the ball at him (with the singular purpose of getting him booked) from a free kick and then that player got a second yellow later in the match? Don't know and I can't be arsed trawling through stats on a Sunday in order to prove a point.

If the refs consistently gave yellows for other forms of time-wasting as they now do for kicking the ball away (but it's difficult to do, how long is too long to take a throw in/goal kick/free kick?) I'm certain there'd be many more cases of it
Click to expand...
No, no one ever gets sent off for time wasting. That’s what I said and that was the point I was making. I vaguely remember one case, but I can’t remember when it was. It was a player delaying a throw in and the ref had forgotten he’d already been booked and only showed the red when he was marking his card.

Getting booked after 70 mins for time wasting us to appease a buying crowd. There’s no chance they get a second yellow card for time wasting.

The rest isn't anything to do with the point I made. It was Ayew.
 
The only thing you need to believe that it's corrupt is to watch the game and then read today's headlines. "Title Race On!". The FA wants this. The last thing they want is City winning by 10 pts.

And this doesn't have to be a blatant, we are giving you a bonus if City drop points scenario. All they have to do is tell VAR or the official if they give any 50/50 call to City, don't expect good assignments. That I believe 100% does happen. It causes VAR to look at a replay and instead of evaluating it, they are looking at it to see if there's any argument for it not to go City's way. I was a basketball official in the US and was told by supervisors in games of mismatches that if I gave 1 call to the dominant team I wouldn't ref again. I also know one of the most prominent officials here told me that he looks to make a call against the home team in big games as soon as possible to shut the crowd up.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Unread Posts

Don't have an account? Register now and see fewer ads!

SIGN UP
Back
Top