Ref Watch City Games - 2023/24

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Yes. he initially decided to play an advantage - not wait and see, but a decision to play on (see the arm gesture). After the through-ball had been played he changed his mind and blew for the foul.

I agree. The motive is unknown and Webb hasn’t clarified it very well.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

But Webb is saying he didn’t play advantage, he had no recollection of using his hands to motion advantage.

It’s worst than a howler with that response. That shows he’s out of his depth & yet I come back to my feeling about it all which is conscious bias. He’s been given a cuddle for fucking over City. The media control PGMOL & they know it, decisions are made not based on what you see but the criticism you may receive & that’s corruption.

I’d bin Webb tomorrow. He’s a terrible orator and has made VAR worse.

 

[Chris in London]

If they were going to lie, there’d have been no reason to say Hooper signalled with his arm without realising it. It makes him look worse than saying he knowingly signalled. Was surprised Webb said that.

Unless the alternative is that he made a decision and then reversed it. Which is exactly what it looked like on the replay.

 

[waspish]

But Webb is saying he didn’t play advantage, he had no recollection of using his hands to motion advantage.

It’s worst than a howler with that response. That shows he’s out of his depth & yet I come back to my feeling about it all which is conscious bias. He’s been given a cuddle for fucking over City. The media control PGMOL & they know it, decisions are made not based on what you see but the criticism you may receive & that’s corruption.

So why did Hooper Whistle so late? Sorry this program is like a program for excuses!

 

[Chris in London]

So why did Hooper Whistle so late? Sorry this program is a program for excuses!

fixed

 

[meltonblue]

And yet he employed 'wait and see' when the xG (to borrow that expression) was pretty low in terms of what advantage might follow, but then blew the whistle when the advantage did in fact accrue.

To excuse the decision you are bound to argue that he did not just make a mistake, he made two poor mistakes in quick succession. You are driven to inventing facts.

The evidence of your own eyes should tell you he played an advantage and then blew up when it turned out there was.

Occam's razor says you're wrong.

He blew the whistle before he knew whether it was going to accrue, he made an early and shit judgment.

I’m not inventing anything, let alone facts. I’m giving an opinion on his thought process that I’ve been consistent with since it happened. There’s been some inventing of laws and guidance on this thread but that’s it as far as I’ve seen.

You think he’s done it knowingly to stop us and so is corrupt, I think he’s incompetent. Neither of them are good things.

 

[cheekybids]

I’d bin Webb tomorrow. He’s a terrible orator and has made VAR worse.

I knew we’d find a way to agree :-)

Webb made a career of making populist decisions with the media support mainly for the Rags but technology & VAR have shown this.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t tell the refs how he refereed, it’s not about following the laws of the game but pleasing the pundits & hacks. You’ve got to know what decisions will be criticised.

 

[meltonblue]

Unless the alternative is that he made a decision and then reversed it. Which is exactly what it looked like on the replay.

Like I said, that would have been an awful decision though. Given most refs signal and then reverse for wait and see anyway, surely that’s more likely.

 

[meltonblue]

I’d bin Webb tomorrow. He’s a terrible orator and has made VAR worse.

Ditto. They’re at a bottom of what was already a very low ebb right now.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I knew we’d find a way to agree :-)

Webb made a career of making populist decisions with the media support mainly for the Rags but technology & VAR have shown this.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t tell the refs how he refereed, it’s not about following the laws of the game but pleasing the pundits & hacks. You’ve got to know what decisions will be criticised.

It doesn’t help that both Owen and Webb sound insincere on that program each month.

I think he makes his officials more nervous of making decisions. He should be doing the exact opposite and getting them to relax and give themselves that extra time to make the right calls, or at least ones you can see how they’ve got there.

We’re in a nosedive currently, where refs are scared to make decisions and when they do, they’re getting more wrong than they should. I bet their collective confidence is really low.