Ref Watch City Games - 2023/24

[hertsblue]

Difference is the Dippers had 2 penalty decisions wrongly called in their favour and Klopps narrative after the game was all about the red card with no media having the backbone to ask him about the penalties.
Ferguson we know was exactly the same.

With us we are far too weak after the game, we never moan or bring up any decisions by the officials, Pep could have talked about the aggression and how they ended up somehow with 11 on the pitch and how the referee had different interpretations on whats a foul for each team.

But he didnt, we didnt make a fuss so its already forgotten.

Now, most refs are very weak these days, and say your one of them and had a call to make. Would you award it to us knowing the other team will moan and brung it up after the game and depending on the team have it all over social media.
Or would you take the easy option and give it against us, keep your cards in your pocket etc, knowing after the game its forgotten and knowing City wont mention it at all.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Difference is the Dippers had 2 penalty decisions wrongly called in their favour and Klopps narrative after the game was all about the red card with no media having the backbone to ask him about the penalties.
Ferguson we know was exactly the same.

With us we are far too weak after the game, we never moan or bring up any decisions by the officials, Pep could have talked about the aggression and how they ended up somehow with 11 on the pitch and how the referee had different interpretations on whats a foul for each team.

But he didnt, we didnt make a fuss so its already forgotten.

Now, most refs are very weak these days, and say your one of them and had a call to make. Would you award it to us knowing the other team will moan and brung it up after the game and depending on the team have it all over social media.
Or would you take the easy option and give it against us, keep your cards in your pocket etc, knowing after the game its forgotten and knowing City wont mention it at all.

I'm wondering if the media have been instructed not to discuss contentious penalties and bad VAR decisions as a condition of their contract to show live games and highlights.

Several times already this season that crap decisions have been airbrushed from history.

 

[Kmezn]

so I really don't understand what's going on with decisions this week. manu vs wolves wolves player gets flattened by the united keeper - no penalty.
everton v villa pickford also misses the ball but gets kicked by the opposition - penalty and yellow card.

the inconsistancies give me a headache.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Overall pretty poor & had little control of the game which could have boiled over.

Jones 1 game 3 out of 5
Pawson 1 game 5 out of 5

 

[JRockBlues]

so I really don't understand what's going on with decisions this week. manu vs wolves wolves player gets flattened by the united keeper - no penalty.
everton v villa pickford also misses the ball but gets kicked by the opposition - penalty and yellow card.

the inconsistancies give me a headache.

Quite simples really. Last week's not given cos it was the rags and this week's was awarded because of the fuss of the previous one not being given.

 

[fierydan]

Why do we barely notice the official in the women's game,and why is VAR hardly a talking point?

Did you watch the women's final?The ref was shocking in her bias towards Spain.Only thing that went England's way was no penalty retake when Earps was clearly not on the line

 

[Jesus H Gabz]

Did you watch the women's final?The ref was shocking in her bias towards Spain.Only thing that went England's way was no penalty retake when Earps was clearly not on the line

Was an interesting penalty award, play stopped, with the ref notified there was a possible penalty incident missed, VAR took an age to say I think you should look at it, the ref then needed a dozen + replays of the incident to convince herself, then awarded it, there was nothing clear and obvious about that

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Difference is the Dippers had 2 penalty decisions wrongly called in their favour and Klopps narrative after the game was all about the red card with no media having the backbone to ask him about the penalties.
Ferguson we know was exactly the same.

With us we are far too weak after the game, we never moan or bring up any decisions by the officials, Pep could have talked about the aggression and how they ended up somehow with 11 on the pitch and how the referee had different interpretations on whats a foul for each team.

But he didnt, we didnt make a fuss so its already forgotten.

Now, most refs are very weak these days, and say your one of them and had a call to make. Would you award it to us knowing the other team will moan and brung it up after the game and depending on the team have it all over social media.
Or would you take the easy option and give it against us, keep your cards in your pocket etc, knowing after the game its forgotten and knowing City wont mention it at all.

Never gets to the point where it is forgotten because it is never an issue. Pickford, I understand, clouted a Villa player yesterday and the ref/VAR award a pen; Onana, the week before clouts a Wolves player and it's 'play on'! The one thing VAR has confirmed since its inception is that clubs have a different set of the LotG applied depending on the colour of their shirt, and the strength of confirmation increases with each matchday.

 

[mancboy]

so I really don't understand what's going on with decisions this week. manu vs wolves wolves player gets flattened by the united keeper - no penalty.
everton v villa pickford also misses the ball but gets kicked by the opposition - penalty and yellow card.

the inconsistancies give me a headache.

as i have previously said, it isnt inconsistent and thats the whole problem, its actually very consistent depending on who you play for

 

[jjctid]

so I really don't understand what's going on with decisions this week. manu vs wolves wolves player gets flattened by the united keeper - no penalty.
everton v villa pickford also misses the ball but gets kicked by the opposition - penalty and yellow card.

the inconsistancies give me a headache.

Compare and contrast with the penalty given to arsenal for the " foul " by Ederson when his momentum resulted in the " coming together " with Nketiah. If that is judged to be a penalty how can Onana get away with it?

 

[alanh09]

I'm wondering if the media have been instructed not to discuss contentious penalties and bad VAR decisions as a condition of their contract to show live games and highlights.

Several times already this season that crap decisions have been airbrushed from history.

I thought the same last season, refs never seemed to get slagged despite how bad the decision. Compare with the season before and they were getting slagged all the time. I got the impression they had been instructed not to criticise.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Compare and contrast with the penalty given to arsenal for the " foul " by Ederson when his momentum resulted in the " coming together " with Nketiah. If that is judged to be a penalty how can Onana get away with it?

It's called 'The Red Shirt Syndrome'! Hasn't there been a voluminous tract on it by a certain H. Webb.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

I thought the same last season, refs never seemed to get slagged despite how bad the decision. Compare with the season before and they were getting slagged all the time. I got the impression they had been instructed not to criticise.

it could be another cash cow for the FA. Mention the ref in the after-match presser and KERCHING!

 

[FantasyIreland]

Did you watch the women's final?The ref was shocking in her bias towards Spain.Only thing that went England's way was no penalty retake when Earps was clearly not on the line

Yep,my comment didnt age well did it?

She was definitely siding with the cheating Spaniards,while allowing a disproportionate amount of fouls on our girls.

No doubt,just like the mens game in the 80's/90's,we will soon see simulation and timewasting become more the norm as players from the continent become more influential in the game.

 

[Stephen230]

Did you watch the women's final?The ref was shocking in her bias towards Spain.Only thing that went England's way was no penalty retake when Earps was clearly not on the line

Didn’t watch it but I’ve seen stills that show her trailing foot was above the line when the ball was struck, which makes it a legal save.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Didn’t watch it but I’ve seen stills that show her trailing foot was above the line when the ball was struck, which makes it a legal save.

I'm a bit of a Doubting Thomas when it comes to anything connected to the Rags. I've only seen video from the front and behind the goals and I'm not wholly convinced it was a legal save. No doubt VAR had a quick check. Anyone seen a frame or two from above where the crossbar hides her trailing foot.

Funny how a shittlily-taken penalty turns into a blistering world-class save.

 

[jitsubluedan]

Did you watch the women's final?The ref was shocking in her bias towards Spain.Only thing that went England's way was no penalty retake when Earps was clearly not on the line

But she did fail to give Paralleullo a second yellow for deliberate time wasting when she’d kicked the ball away after we’d won a throw-in. That was within the original 90 minutes and if she’d rightly been sent off, Spain would have been down to 10 for a minimum of 15 minutes.

 

[roach3]

I’m no rags fan but I thought the handball was a def pen.
There would be uproar if that was us that said tough shit.

 

[Stephen230]

I'm a bit of a Doubting Thomas when it comes to anything connected to the Rags. I've only seen video from the front and behind the goals and I'm not wholly convinced it was a legal save. No doubt VAR had a quick check. Anyone seen a frame or two from above where the crossbar hides her trailing foot.

Funny how a shittlily-taken penalty turns into a blistering world-class save.

This is the frame that apparently the chip in the ball informs the VAR as the moment the ball was kicked. If you accept that, then it does look like the foot is on/ above the line.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

This is the frame that apparently the chip in the ball informs the VAR as the moment the ball was kicked. If you accept that, then it does look like the foot is on/ above the line.

That seems to suggest a legal save, but it looks at odds with the video from front and back! i remember BT some seasons ago when we played Spurs. 'Arry Münchener scored an offside and the bastards moved Zabaleta backwards in the replay to show 'Arry well onside. The thing about football's governing bodies and the game's arbitration these days just leads the paying public to another level of scepticism. We have seen over the last couple of seasons so many variations, often within twenty four hours, in the application of the LotG that I would believe a volume of fairy tales than anything that comes from the likes of PiGMOL.