Ref Watch

[Saddleworth2]

I can only assume that decent journalists ( Martin Samuels for instance ) are concerned about the influence which could be brought to bear and thus severely influence their income etc.

When the ref ( sorry my memory for names is shit ) told the media that he had been told to change his report by PGMOL , he was dismissed as crank or liar iirc.

I believe he also lost his pension award .

That I presume is the kind of influence which means that the shit show is allowed to continue.

I think the referee was Mark Halsey or something like that. When I say Media, I probably mean Sky/BT who are directly involved through TV rights and the online red tops who exist for clicks. Business is best with a thriving Dippers/United/Arsenal competing for the top honours. in the last decade, and certainly since Pep came it increasingly looks like we may dominate. The bias we see is the way to keep those teams competitive and relevant. Bloody hell it’s so obvious that both Liverpool this season and United last have been given significant help to reach the CL places by game manipulation.

 

[spacecadet]

I was moaning on the phone at half-time to my 85 year old dad. City were winning at the time, and went further ahead just after half-time. Pigmol, Sky, BT and the fucking BBC can dress it up all they like. Something wasn't right about Tuesday night, I know fuck all about cooking, but can tell when the chicken tastes right.

 

[Saddleworth2]

If I understand correctly, PGMOL comes under the auspices of the Premier League whilst previously all referees and officials were appointed and allocated by the FA.

This beggers the rhetorical question of "Why the change?"

You are correct. The PL funds PGMOL. I have always wondered why a club like ours which is a member of the PL governance structure does not raise the question of refereeing standards. I would imagine it would get some support from the clubs that are normally on the receiving end of it.

 

[asahartford1]

Taylor and Oliver ?

I believe so.
Certainly not Moss, Mason, or any other of the round , old buggers.

 

[asahartford1]

That’s 2 more than I thought.. there’s going to be some very annoyed European teams then

I think Taylor and Oliver are possibly close to the required level. Certainly the only two who would survive the cull with my guillotine.

 

[asahartford1]

I was moaning on the phone at half-time to my 85 year old dad. City were winning at the time, and went further ahead just after half-time. Pigmol, Sky, BT and the fucking BBC can dress it up all they like. Something wasn't right about Tuesday night, I know fuck all about cooking, but can tell when the chicken tastes right.

It did have a whiff, there again i usually pick up that smell when Moss and Attwell are around.

 

[Chris in London]

I think Taylor and Oliver are possibly close to the required level. Certainly the only two who would survive the cull with my guillotine.

I’ve seen Taylor ref a Champions League match and I thought he was excellent.

Which makes me all the more suspicious when he turns in such abject performances when he gets our games.

 

[Saddleworth2]

I certainly wouldn't know how to go about setting up a concerted challenge to PiGMOL by supporters of all clubs in the PL who believe there is corruption being used to influence the outcomes of games for whatever reasons, but I believe that would be necessary to even stand a chance of bringing about any kind of reform.

My opinions and thoughts are too easily dismissed as being wrong , stupid and the work of a utter crank - my wife would definitely support that view .

But PiGMOL are the paid faciltators of the motives and interests of the PL.

You raise an interesting point. The only body that purports to look after fans interests is the Football Supporters Association.

Home - Football Supporters' Association

thefsa.org.uk

looking at the website there appears nothing particularly controversial. I may join and ask some questions. I‘m sure it’s not just us that think there s something rotten in the state of Denmark.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

You are correct. The PL funds PGMOL. I have always wondered why a club like ours which is a member of the PL governance structure does not raise the question of refereeing standards. I would imagine it would get some support from the clubs that are normally on the receiving end of it.

The whole set-up is a disgrace and I find it inconceivable that these
" performances " from referees do not get picked up, highlighted and called out for what they are.

I have a clear bias, but I would defy a supporter with no vested interest either way to say that the game on Tuesday was refereed fairly or objectively.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

You raise an interesting point. The only body that purports to look after fans interests is the Football Supporters Association.

Home - Football Supporters' Association

thefsa.org.uk

looking at the website there appears nothing particularly controversial. I may join and ask some questions. I‘m sure it’s not just us that think there s something rotten in the state of Denmark.

I have just made a complaint to the FSA concerning the Atwell/ Moss performances.