Ref Watch

[Coljj]

Fully expect the Moss and Madley combination to turn up again if we get to the FA Cup Semis against the Rags.

 

[CatMan]

I think the VAR team are failing to grasp that when they are interpreting decisions on whether a referee should be advised to change his onfield decision, they are becoming confused as to whether 'clear and obvious' is in regard to the referees reasoning or whether it's to deal with the event.

Yes, it could be argued that Moss considered the keeper may have touched the ball in a fast developing incident, and the fact Foden didn't look for the penalty also perhaps convinced Moss not to award it. What the problem is however, is that VAR appears to have analysed the footage with an aim to justify why Moss concluded what he did, rather than to tell Moss his conclusion was wrong! In short, that's the flaw, it's being used by the Referees to justify why shite decisions are made rather than rectify them.

 

[St.Pauli support]

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But yes, I do think that VAR officials and match officials seem to have a bias against us. Sometimes that is understandable - like if we are playing a lower league team in a cup, but that isn't specifically against City.

On other occasions, it might be just giving the benefit of the doubt to the lower placed team. That is understandable too...

Refs have to treat any team/club in the same way, no matter what league or how great/poor they are.

Refs have to care for the rules (and many rules are shite and many are interpreted in a wrong way) to guarantee the integrity of the game.

A penalty must be a penalty, and if Bayern get 14 penalties vs say Bielefeld that's ok - IF the calls are all correct. No wrong mercy. Only rules matter, nothing else.

Ref bias should never be understandable.

 

[Mike Cledford]

On the BBC the reporter for the WBA match states that 'Mike Dean ORDERED the match referee to go and watch the pitchside monitor.'
It might have been an unfortunate choice of words but l do not like the thought of anyone especially Dean who can influence match allocations ordering someone to look again. If Dean thinks the decision is wrong just say so so that everyone knows.

 

[Paladin]

Refs have to treat any team/club in the same way, no matter what league or how great/poor they are.

Refs have to care for the rules (and many rules are shite and many are interpreted in a wrong way) to guarantee the integrity of the game.

A penalty must be a penalty, and if Bayern get 14 penalties vs say Bielefeld that's ok - IF the calls are all correct. No wrong mercy. Only rules matter, nothing else.

Ref bias should never be understandable.

I agree. When I say bias, I mean in an almost subconscious sense, but sometimes just out of common sense.

For example, Southampton had a player sent off against United, when they had already had a player dismissed in the second minute of the game, and were losing 6-0 at the time. The offence was a marginal one, and the dismissal was subsequently overturned. So why did Mike Dean think it was ok to send the player off in the circumstances? Surely, give the benefit of any doubt to Southampton. United scored three further goals against mine men. The integrity of the referee, or The Laws of the Game would not have been compromised.

 

[crazyg]

I agree. When I say bias, I mean in an almost subconscious sense, but sometimes just out of common sense.

For example, Southampton had a player sent off against United, when they had already had a player dismissed in the second minute of the game, and were losing 6-0 at the time. The offence was a marginal one, and the dismissal was subsequently overturned. So why did Mike Dean think it was ok to send the player off in the circumstances? Surely, give the benefit of any doubt to Southampton. United scored three further goals against mine men. The integrity of the referee, or The Laws of the Game would not have been compromised.

What have the LotG got to do with the refereeing of the rags?

 

[Norbiton]

So far this evening we’re seeing the usual soft calls, go into the back of a Fulham player and it’s a free kick but into the back of a City player is absolutely fine.

 

[ShaunMCFC]

So far this evening we’re seeing the usual soft calls, go into the back of a Fulham player and it’s a free kick but into the back of a City player is absolutely fine.

Honestly mate it’s not worth getting worked up over. We win everything ourselves like Pep said.

That and obviously the help from the sport washing, dodgy, maybe fake, maybe printed from your local library money

 

[Big Chap]

So far this evening we’re seeing the usual soft calls, go into the back of a Fulham player and it’s a free kick but into the back of a City player is absolutely fine.

Marriner is always terrible (aren’t they all?) but his performance tonight has been incredible. Every game for us now is like a 3rd round FA cup tie where the underdogs are allowed to kick the shit out of us, whilst we breathe on an opponent and it’s a foul. Reed for them has committed 3 fouls already worthy of a Ferny yellow card.

 

[kippaxwarrior]

Fucking shit again tonight. Marriner almost as bad as Moss. Almost.

Shows in the last week we're going to be reffed differently than other teams for the rest of the season