Close thread…..also anyone criticising our lads, just think about the split second mental gymnastics, I thought they played the situation correct, the officials have shafted them which ever way you look at itThis is another aspect to this that is not being talked about.
We knew immediately that Rashford was obviously offside by virtue of watching on TV but Akanji, Walker, and Ederson didn’t know for sure. Which means everything they did whilst play continued had to be based on the assumption he was onside, because if he was, and the went in for a challenge based on the way Rashford was shielding the ball, they could give away a penalty and/or be sent off.
Only people that have never actually played football will think Rashford isn’t influencing (obstructing) the play of the defenders and keeper in that situation.
All of the uncertainty and risk was with the defenders in that scenario, meaning allowing that sort of offside play further disadvantages the defending team (who is already inherently disadvantaged).
The linesman did flag but the referee must have overruled him.I couldn’t disagree more.
The moment Rashford goes towards the ball he is impacting the decision making of our defenders and goalkeeper. I mean his run gets him within 30 cm of the ball, he practically shields it towards Fernandes.
How a linesman doesn’t flag for a player who is three yards offside running towards the ball is beyond me.
Absolutely agree that he impacts the decision making.....said it countless times....but thats not in the rules...the rule(s) is about physically trying to play the ball (or actually playing it) - which rashford doesnt...nor does he impede anyone physically...both defenders could have made a tackle (and if you look at the rules if the defender had tried to takcle Rasford and fouled him...it would have been given offside (if Fernandes hadnt scored) as the offside had occured first...if fernardes scores its still a goal (s long as Rasford doesnt touch the ball at any point0
The linesman did flag offside...the ref changed the decision
Another thing that confirm it for me is that if Akanji, Walker or Ederson had gone on to foul Rashford, would they have been booked or sent off given that Rashford WAS offside?This is another aspect to this that is not being talked about.
We knew immediately that Rashford was obviously offside by virtue of watching on TV but Akanji, Walker, and Ederson didn’t know for sure. Which means everything they did whilst play continued had to be based on the assumption he was onside, because if he was, and the went in for a challenge based on the way Rashford was shielding the ball, they could give away a penalty and/or be sent off.
Only people that have never actually played football will think Rashford isn’t influencing (obstructing) the play of the defenders and keeper in that situation.
All of the uncertainty and risk was with the defenders in that scenario, meaning allowing that sort of offside play further disadvantages the defending team (who is already inherently disadvantaged).
Shankly and he said if not interfering with play he should not be on the field is my recollection.I think that was Danny Blanchflower.