Ref Watch

BerkshireBlue said:
You're admitting he wouldn't have done it if yellowed earlier which he should have been. That for me says it was extremely poor refereeing. It wasn't even one yellow prior it was several he missed
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You are not seeing the point that yellow or not it was Dallas choice to make the tackle and face the risks of doing so, he decided to make it and now will have many months on the treatment table because of HIS actions. The ref doesn’t decide what the players actions are.
 
itsnevereasy said:
You are not seeing the point that yellow or not it was Dallas choice to make the tackle and face the risks of doing so, he decided to make it and now will have many months on the treatment table because of HIS actions. The ref doesn’t decide what the players actions are.
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Do you not think dallas was acting under manager instructions. Failure to do so would have consequences
 
itsnevereasy said:
You are not seeing the point that yellow or not it was Dallas choice to make the tackle and face the risks of doing so, he decided to make it and now will have many months on the treatment table because of HIS actions. The ref doesn’t decide what the players actions are.
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This is the point though. If he was on a yellow which he should have been he wouldn't have gone in like that.
You seem to like law and order analogies for some reason so its like a judge letting off a persistent criminal and then getting surprised when they commit a further crime. If Tierney did his job properly he wouldn't have broke his leg. It's that simple.
 
foggy1974 said:
Like many have said, if that's rags or dippers its a nailed on penalty. Its like Milners tackle yesterday, not a foul for me but you can guarantee it would be if thats us taking the lead
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100% that whichever City player had made that tackle would have been penalised and carded for 'excessive use of force' and the goal would have been chalked off.
 
BerkshireBlue said:
This is the point though. If he was on a yellow which he should have been he wouldn't have gone in like that.
You seem to like law and order analogies for some reason so its like a judge letting off a persistent criminal and then getting surprised when they commit a further crime. If Tierney did his job properly he wouldn't have broke his leg. It's that simple.
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But you don’t know he wouldn’t have gone in for that tackle even if he was on a yellow. You are assuming he wouldn’t have done so. Only he knows if he would have and only he is responsible for his actions. Not the ref, not his manager just him.
 
cheekybids said:
I don’t think they do it for brown envelopes, I don’t think anyone asks you to do anything but the refs know the score. If you send Mane off against Newcastle for a foots up challenge your career will be in tatters.
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Would have been 3 games too. can you imagine the media outcry if one of our players did what he did and only got a yellow?
 
itsnevereasy said:
But you don’t know he wouldn’t have gone in for that tackle even if he was on a yellow. You are assuming he wouldn’t have done so. Only he knows if he would have and only he is responsible for his actions. Not the ref, not his manager just him.
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THIS^^^ could be the least productive, and pedantic, argument ever!

OF COURSE, “nobody knows,” but given we all watch lots of football and players on yellow cards rarely make reckless challenges in big games thereafter to protect themselves from a second yellow, it just makes COMPLETE FOOTBALLING SENSE that had Dallas been on a yellow card, it ys highly doubtful he would have made that challenge, especially considering he didn’t need to make it at all!

Indeed, it would have made for a very interesting g afternoon if Dallas had gone up against Grealish for well over an hour with a first yellow card, but Tierney is either bent, incompetent, or both!

Tierney played the big tough guy on the sideline, even though he had a(what should illegal) “behind the hand” conversation with Marsch AFTER yellow carding him, but was dangerously laissez faire on the actual field of play,

As for the Dallas injury, I thought (like most, I assume) his knee would have given way far easier than his femur, which is the biggest, strongest “dog bone” in the body!

The “wrong leg” challenge is so dangerous to players, I’ve no idea why they do it!
 
cheekybids said:
I don’t think they do it for brown envelopes, I don’t think anyone asks you to do anything but the refs know the score. If you send Mane off against Newcastle for a foots up challenge your career will be in tatters.
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There is certainly the implication of future negative actions associated with the refereeing of big games these days.

It’s why I think Oliver has made himself the King of the No Decision! VAR rarely overturns it, and the ref doesn’t fall into the spotlight of “You might want to check that!” or the dreaded “You made a clear and obvious error, you plonker!” call from the back office TV tech!!!

When Grealish came to City there were two major talking points: the fee and “the most fouled player in the PL.”

There was nothing he could do about the fee, but PGMOL and the PL have taken care of the other issue!

Hell, even when he tries to stay on his feet, but can’t, he doesn’t get the call…yet people wonder why players go down with a yelp?!

Dean, Atkinson & Moss are all leaving at the end of the season. I like 2 of them and think they’ll be missed. Moss will be a 20 stone **** in 12 months!
 
ChicagoBlue said:
As for the Dallas injury, I thought (like most, I assume) his knee would have given way far easier than his femur, which is the biggest, strongest “dog bone” in the body!
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Thing is we don't know where in the bone the injury is, or how "clean" the break is, if it's close to a joint, it could take a long time to repair easily.

It was his 5th shit challenge, and no matter it was his choice or not tierney was responsible, because he'd lost the game long before by not managing the game correctly.
 
Probably the poorest ref performance I have witnessed in a long time. It was like his mind was somewhere else altogether. Missed almost everything and then gave free kicks for non fouls. Bizarre

Not to get into the Dallas argument but he should have had at least 1 yellow before THAT challenge. Tierney seemed to not want to give him a yellow as the poor dear was injured
 
cleavers said:
I thought it was "red" worthy for being reckless, it was that late, it doesn't/shouldn't matter if he's injured or on a stretcher.
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It’s like that other one when a game kicks off and within a couple of mins there‘s a poor or reckless tackle a bit like the Dallas one but the commentators or pundits usually say it’s too early in the game for a yellow or red card …
 
Ref watch tomorrow will tell us grelish should be sent off for being to quick to get out of the way of serious injury
 
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