I don’t think corruption starts & ends with City. I don’t think people are told to give a decision for x & be paid y.
Do I think City are involved ? Yes I do. If we had conclusive evidence in 2012 & kept quiet for the benefit of the brand as has been mentioned as it benefits us then we are involved.
I still remember a game years back against Newcastle at the Etihad, we were really close to getting in the top 4, not getting 3 points at that stage would have put a huge dint in our chances, Newcastle player gets brought down in the box and it was as clear a penalty as I’ve ever seen, genuinely was a stonewall penalty.I don’t think corruption starts & ends with City. I don’t think people are told to give a decision for x & be paid y.
Do I think City are involved ? Yes I do. If we had conclusive evidence in 2012 & kept quiet for the benefit of the brand as has been mentioned as it benefits us then we are involved.
Then more needs to be done rather than venting frustration on a forum like all fans do for all clubs - fans boycott, protests, real demand for change and proof
Continuing to pay to watch whilst corruption definitely exists means it will just forever continue
I’ve called our corruption at work & the impacts are likely to cost me $2m over the next 10 years, I’ll stick to the forum if you don’t mind.
That’s fine - but if all fans who genuinely love the game and firmly believe corruption exists - pointing to bad official decisions in a match won’t change the pendulum.
Meanwhile, VAR will continue to adapt and find ways to improve - the controversy and odd farcical decisions will never end though. The game has too many grey areas.
People cry conspiracy now, that would be me out.Huh?
Anyhow, check back in 4 years time. AI is going to make offside calls instant and spot on, out-of-bounds calls 100% accurate and in the longer term, even make subjective calls (hand ball and the like) instant and uniformly applied.
Perhaps the refs know that unless it's in shooting range any free kick to City will see a dozen passes before it's back with Ederson. Might as well just play advantage.Just as an aside. My favourite is where most of the refs are giving us "an advantage", just after one of our players has had to avoid 3 scything defenders only to be faced with 5 more and no team mate in the vicinity.
The application of the 'advantage' law does my tits in.Just as an aside. My favourite is where most of the refs are giving us "an advantage", just after one of our players has had to avoid 3 scything defenders only to be faced with 5 more and no team mate in the vicinity.
No it was David Coote, fairly new to ythe PL.
Moss has retired, to be part of the var team, couldn't run any more basically.
I'm not sure we need to wait 4-10 years to see whether Rashford was 3 yards offside in the derby, or that Grealish was kicked on the leg on Sunday, or that Gundo was assaulted.Check back in 4 years. Either you are right or I am.
I base my predictions as a software engineering professional with a keen interest in AI and by following AI developments. I might well be wrong in projecting a 4-year timeframe for the improvements I state - but I think I'm in the ball park. Within an order of magnitude (meaning maybe 10 years instead of 4).
Eventually what I've predicted will come to pass - it's inevitable - the question is when? - how soon? And not at all if.
And the Spurs handballI'm not sure we need to wait 4-10 years to see whether Rashford was 3 yards offside in the derby, or that Grealish was kicked on the leg on Sunday, or that Gundo was assaulted.
The VAR we have at the minute is A not AI.
Yeah after seeing the WC with auto-offside I can see the benfit in taking humans out of the decision making process. People are much more willing to accept a computer 'error' than a human error of judgement.Check back in 4 years. Either you are right or I am.
I base my predictions as a software engineering professional with a keen interest in AI and by following AI developments. I might well be wrong in projecting a 4-year timeframe for the improvements I state - but I think I'm in the ball park. Within an order of magnitude (meaning maybe 10 years instead of 4).
Eventually what I've predicted will come to pass - it's inevitable - the question is when? - how soon? And not at all if.
It should be VER not VAR - Varied Execrable Refereeing. We had seen so much, had little explained, much fudged that with only a gramme or two of logic a moron would be wondering WTF is going on!I'm not sure we need to wait 4-10 years to see whether Rashford was 3 yards offside in the derby, or that Grealish was kicked on the leg on Sunday, or that Gundo was assaulted.
The VAR we have at the minute is A not AI.
It should be VER not VAR - Varied Execrable Refereeing. We had seen so much, had little explained, much fudged that with only a gramme or two of logic a moron would be wondering WTF is going on!
I'm thinking more of points we've lost because of the officiating.And the Spurs handball
b) A billion dollar industry and millions at stake at every match , why would you want to hire an incompetent employee instead of top of the crop?GENUINE QUESTION
Referees in general, including yesterdays, and specifically Twatwell, (could name numerous others, but can't leave out Walton) , are they.................
a) corrupt/ bent / cheats
b) incompetent
c) publicity seeking individuals, who want to be the centre of attention.
I HONESTLY cant think of anything else, that could possibly explain the shitstorm that we are currently experiencing.
It's systematic manipulation of results to enable the PL's desired outcome to keep the competition 'interesting' and the cash rolling in.I'm thinking more of points we've lost because of the officiating.
Rags 3pts, dippers 3 points, Brentford 3 points, Everton 2pts, Villa 2pts = 13 points
We'd currently be 8 points clear as per last year, so there's no way they were going to make that mistake again were they.
Computers are only as good as the people that programme them. I am sure they will use individuals that don't have any allegiance to any of the red top teams.Yeah after seeing the WC with auto-offside I can see the benfit in taking humans out of the decision making process. People are much more willing to accept a computer 'error' than a human error of judgement.
I can see them going that direction but I cant see how they'll do it yet.
It's systematic manipulation of results to enable the PL's desired outcome to keep the competition 'interesting' and the cash rolling in.
Remember Scudamore's comments when he alluded the the PL's 'Strategic plan', and his comments on the Rag's (below)?
"It's a double-edged sword. When your most popular club isn't doing as well, that costs you interest and audience in some places.", "There are lots of fans around the world who wish Manchester United were winning it again..."
He essentially let the cat out of the bag without actually coming out and admitting they were cheating.