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blueinsa said:
No.

They just apply them as they see fit knowing that regardless of the outcry, it’s all forgot within a day or two anyway so fuck it, give what they want to whoever they want.
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Is the correct answer. When they spend 90 seconds adjusting the lines on one decision and then 0 seconds on another, you can only deduce one conclusion.
 
I actually have very little issue with the Casemiro offside, he seems of but a fraction.

It is however the fact that it just seems offside from all the other VAR decisions.

You even get the commentators going quiet.

I’m fully in the corrupt camp and using VAR must be a swing of at least 10-15 points.
 
Stephen230 said:
The Tottenham one.
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Yet Barnes had one chalked off that was no different.

All hid nicely behind some subjective bollox and plenty of gaslighting so they can give what they want to whoever they want to suit.

That aside though I see no reference to pigmol saying they used the tolerance levels you alluded to, hence why I said I’ve never heard of it since it applies to a Rashford goal against Liverpool and then today?
 
blueinsa said:
Yet Barnes had one chalked off that was no different.

All hid nicely behind some subjective bollox and plenty of gaslighting so they can give what they want to whoever they want to suit.

That aside though I see no reference to pigmol saying they used the tolerance levels you alluded to, hence why I said I’ve never heard of it since it applies to a Rashford goal against Liverpool and then today?
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When commentators tell you why goals are allowed & you hear it repeated then it’s corruption. It’s not needed when everything is above board, remember when we were told lies about 7 minutes of additional time to justify the Rags late goal & never before had anyone heard it.
 
blueinsa said:
Yet Barnes had one chalked off that was no different.

All hid nicely behind some subjective bollox and plenty of gaslighting so they can give what they want to whoever they want to suit.

That aside though I see no reference to pigmol saying they used the tolerance levels you alluded to, hence why I said I’ve never heard of it since it applies to a Rashford goal against Liverpool and then today?
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Pgmol don’t announce much publicly, apart from appointments. And certainly not every time a goal is awarded due to the tolerance level being applied.

And you didn’t say you hadn’t heard of it. You said it hadn’t happened and I was gaslighting for simply pointing out that it has, numerous times.
 
Stephen230 said:
Pgmol don’t announce much publicly, apart from appointments. And certainly not every time a goal is awarded due to the tolerance level being applied.

And you didn’t say you hadn’t heard of it. You said it hadn’t happened and I was gaslighting for simply pointing out that it has, numerous times.
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Sorry but no. Rashford goal was very publicly announced as VAR using new tolerance rules, hence why they have it.

I’ve seen countless goals more onside than that one chalked off since and never have I heard any mention of the same tolerance rule being used or applied.

Until today that is when I read you mentioning it, hence why I told you to stop gaslighting like the media do.
 
Fuzzy80 said:
I actually have very little issue with the Casemiro offside, he seems of but a fraction.

It is however the fact that it just seems offside from all the other VAR decisions.

You even get the commentators going quiet.

I’m fully in the corrupt camp and using VAR must be a swing of at least 10-15 points.
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What?
I've been playing football for most of my life, I'm 58 and have played football at some decent levels for over 50 of those years...
In all that time Luke Shaw would be given 2 feet offside.
Did the laws of the game change recently and I missed it. I'm serious.
Or is just bent?
 
I've not watched any of today, but reading what I have on here and elsewhere, this will be the death knell with football for me.

They've somehow introduced a new level of giving certain clubs an advantage against other clubs, it's clear as day, they're not even trying to hide it.

It wouldn't matter how brilliant (or not) Newcastle were today, they were never winning.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
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The reason it appears to be in front of the Newcastle foot is because they're saying that the defender's foot is off the ground and they have therefore had to extrapolate down to the surface. Not saying I agree with the line, just explaining why it looks to be in front of his foot.

All that guess work followed by mm accuracy, is absolutely bollocks, and anybody with an ounce of sense realises this.
 
blueinsa said:
Sorry but no. Rashford goal was very publicly announced as VAR using new tolerance rules, hence why they have it.

I’ve seen countless goals more onside than that one chalked off since and never have I heard any mention of the same tolerance rule being used or applied.

Until today that is when I read you mentioning it, hence why I told you to stop gaslighting like the media do.
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I don’t really watch that many live games on television and virtually never United games, so I don’t really know have much attention commentators pay to it.

My only intended contribution to this discussion was to inform the guy who asked, why there would only be one line when there’s normally two.
 
the-ecstacy-of-eight said:
The reason it appears to be in front of the Newcastle foot is because they're saying that the defender's foot is off the ground and they have therefore had to extrapolate down to the surface. Not saying I agree with the line, just explaining why it looks to be in front of his foot.

All that guess work followed by mm accuracy, is absolutely bollocks, and anybody with an ounce of sense realises this.
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But there are green pixels indicating the pitch between the so called vertical line and the front of the Newcastle foot are there not?
 
cleavers said:
I've not watched any of today, but reading what I have on here and elsewhere, this will be the death knell with football for me.

They've somehow introduced a new level of giving certain clubs an advantage against other clubs, it's clear as day, they're not even trying to hide it.

It wouldn't matter how brilliant (or not) Newcastle were today, they were never winning.
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It’s always been there but there’s no excuse any more. It’s why I’m a fan of VAR, not because it’s improved the game but it shows the corruption more clearly.
 
cheekybids said:
It’s always been there but there’s no excuse any more. It’s why I’m a fan of VAR, not because it’s improved the game but it shows the corruption more clearly.
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That's not the greatest endorsment, given that it was meant to make things better, for me it's clearly given the corruption another level.
 
the-ecstacy-of-eight said:
Shit, yeah, I see what you mean now :) Hadn't noticed that mate, but to be fair there are neon green dots all over that image.

Who fucking knows then?!?!
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I do believe that is the vertical line as drawn by the VAR officials ? It just doesn't show that well when I took the picture of my TV screen.

I can add the line appeared for only a few seconds after quite a long period of time. Weirdly.
 
Stephen230 said:
Pgmol don’t announce much publicly, apart from appointments. And certainly not every time a goal is awarded due to the tolerance level being applied.

And you didn’t say you hadn’t heard of it. You said it hadn’t happened and I was gaslighting for simply pointing out that it has, numerous times.
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