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Only if they had any chance of getting to the ball. None of the people behind Casemiro could have got anywhere near it after it was headed.
Certainly one player was in an offside position, but I thought it was Weghorst - I thought Shaw took the freekick,
Didn't watch it, just reacting to the chat and the image. My point was more that if the guy who was definitely was off-side wasn't there, the defenders could have put Casemiro under pressure.

Anyway. Whatever. We can analyse to our heart's content, they will do what they want and justify in three different ways anyway.
 
I have said on a few occasions that it's all bollocks. All that's necessary is to use a player's feet. If the attacking players foot is in front of the defenders he is offside. If not he is on side. Whether he leans forward shouldn't come into it.

Neither should his running pattern.
 
I have said on a few occasions that it's all bollocks. All that's necessary is to use a player's feet. If the attacking players foot is in front of the defenders he is offside. If not he is on side. Whether he leans forward shouldn't come into it.

Before the arrival of VAR off side was given when the attackers shirt was in front of the defenders. All the new rules have done is complicate things to the point of stupidity.
 
When the 'not interfering' rule was brought in, the attacker basically had to be walking away from goal with his hand up to prove he was not part of the move.

Since then we've had First Phase, Second Phase, VAR, keep flag down until ball is touched, no offsides after Lent, every bit of nonsense you can possibly imagine.

Football fans are not stupid, they know when a player is involved with the game and when they're not.

The rule needs to go back to what it was. If you're an attacking player trying to attack then you're interfering with play.
 
When the 'not interfering' rule was brought in, the attacker basically had to be walking away from goal with his hand up to prove he was not part of the move.

Since then we've had First Phase, Second Phase, VAR, keep flag down until ball is touched, no offsides after Lent, every bit of nonsense you can possibly imagine.

Football fans are not stupid, they know when a player is involved with the game and when they're not.

The rule needs to go back to what it was. If you're an attacking player trying to attack then you're interfering with play.

Yep. I have said for some time the rules are being set by referees from the pov of referees, not from players' pov or spectators' pov. What could possibly go wrong?
 
How do they even determine how high the defender's foot is to adjust for vertical alignment? And as for the forward position of Casemiro's shoulder ..... Well. And the guy at the back in an offside position blocking defenders. Cluster fuck.
The new norm! Ditto shit every week .
Ffs they’re basing their decision on height looking at a 2D frame . How do we know if that vertical line is 90 degree?
 
Surprised we do t have the technology they used in the world Cup yet. That showed pretty clearly in 3d whether someone was offside.

That was just CGI graphics that looked good. I wouldn't be surprised if it was still based on a referee with a slide rule.
 

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