Ref Watch

[Bluearmy]

Overall, I thought the same. There were some weird things, though. Play stopping for Joelinton holding his foot - when did that become a thing. Not stopping play after a nasty-looking collision. Then booking Ake for it. Blowing his whistle at Ederson when two up.

Btw, I thought you couldn't give a yellow card if you played advantage? Not sure why not, in all honesty, but isn't that the rule?

No

 

[Blue Mist]

You can play advantage & then go back for a caution. However, every training course I have ever been on, they tell you that you should not play advantage on any yellow or red card offences

The ref yesterday did the classic reffing when you are not fit enough. He only ever went about 5 yards either side of the half way line. Also, how can you forget your whistle & have to get one from the 4th official. Laughable

@richardtheref Your last line, is that what happened?
I was sat there waiting for kick off and wondering why he went to the touchline. If I was asked to name 20 reasons why he did it, forgetting your whistle is not one I would have said.
It also shows how unprofessional they are.

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

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Overall, I thought the same. There were some weird things, though. Play stopping for Joelinton holding his foot - when did that become a thing. Not stopping play after a nasty-looking collision. Then booking Ake for it. Blowing his whistle at Ederson when two up.

Btw, I thought you couldn't give a yellow card if you played advantage? Not sure why not, in all honesty, but isn't that the rule?

Think if it’s a reckless foul then a yellow card can be given unless of course it’s us i.e. Kalvin’s yellow against Bournemouth after the advantage was played.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Overall, I thought the same. There were some weird things, though. Play stopping for Joelinton holding his foot - when did that become a thing. Not stopping play after a nasty-looking collision. Then booking Ake for it. Blowing his whistle at Ederson when two up.

Btw, I thought you couldn't give a yellow card if you played advantage? Not sure why not, in all honesty, but isn't that the rule?

I think current direction is if the booking would have been for stopping a promising attack, then you can't go back to book someone.

If the booking was for a reckless challenge or such like, you can go back.

 

[HorlocksWalk]

Nice to contrast Ake's booking with Shaw's nowhere near the ball tackle then piling his knees into the players back whilst he is down, got a particularly stiff talking to. I understand that in a big competitive game, tackles will go in from both sides, but petulance cos you are getting tonked should not be accepted.

 

[Gordyola]

That's it in a nutshell. While it's only 1-0 the shitehouse tactics will continue. They need to get a grip of it because fans are getting fed up paying to watch shit like this. Something else I noticed yesterday was there was a real heads collision between Ake and one of theirs which SHOULD have resulted in a stoppage. However Newcastle were attacking and the ref allowed play to continue until they missed the chance. Only then did he call on the trainers.

Yet he stop the game on 2 other occasions, for non head injuries

 

[Gordyola]

I think current direction is if the booking would have been for stopping a promising attack, then you can't go back to book someone.

If the booking was for a reckless challenge or such like, you can go back.

Only for a red card, the theory being if the red was administered at the correct time then the player couldn't be involved in any play, by allowing play to continue the red-card offender could have a significant affect

 

[nmc]

Referees must be aware of the tactical time wasting! It’s spoiling the game

I thought it was interesting how quickly the PL dismissed any suggestion that they should actually add the time wasted at the end of the game… as FIFA did at the W/C.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Only for a red card, the theory being if the red was administered at the correct time then the player couldn't be involved in any play, by allowing play to continue the red-card offender could have a significant affect

A red card event (including 2nd yellow, I assume) is when advantage is not advised due to those complications;- see second paragraph below for an option if he does.
A red card for DOGSO is commuted to yellow.

From Law 12:
Advantage
If the referee plays the advantage for an offence for which a caution/ sending-off would have been issued had play been stopped, this caution/ sending-off must be issued when the ball is next out of play. However, if the offence was denying the opposing team an obvious goal-scoring opportunity, the player is cautioned for unsporting behaviour; if the offence was interfering with or stopping a promising attack, the player is not cautioned.
Advantage should not be applied in situations involving serious foul play, violent conduct or a second cautionable offence unless there is a clear opportunity to score a goal. The referee must send off the player when the ball is next out of play, but if the player plays the ball or challenges/interferes with an opponent, the referee will stop play, send off the player and restart with an indirect free kick, unless the player committed a more serious offence.

 

[Blue Mist]

I didnt watch today's shit show but from what I've read I could compare and contrast our game (any from the last 5 seasons) to dips v rags and post in here here or the Premier League is corrupt thread. By all accounts totally different standards were applied today including shoving the linesman.

 

[richardtheref]

@richardtheref Your last line, is that what happened?
I was sat there waiting for kick off and wondering why he went to the touchline. If I was asked to name 20 reasons why he did it, forgetting your whistle is not one I would have said.
It also shows how unprofessional they are.

Watched it on BT and he went over to the 4th official who definitely handed him a whistle.

 

[Blue Mist]

Watched it on BT and he went over to the 4th official who definitely handed him a whistle.

As you said in your original post, it's the one thing you simply don't forget......
Shambolic and Unprofessional but sadly, it's the standard we've come to accept. (Not a typo, not expect, accept)

 

[Deepest Blue]

Disgraceful performance by Andy Madley today.
How United kept all 11 on the field is bewildering enough but how Fernandes avoided even a yellow is just as bad as it gets.

 

[Cassandra]

Watched it on BT and he went over to the 4th official who definitely handed him a whistle.

It certainly looked that way, though they were fairy covert about the way they did it. We didn’t see exactly what was handed over as it was transferred by sliding one hand over the other and then Hooper put his hand in his pocket before attaching the whistle to his wrist.

During the first half I wondered whether he had forgotten his cards as well.

 

[the-ecstacy-of-eight]

Overall, I thought the same. There were some weird things, though. Play stopping for Joelinton holding his foot - when did that become a thing. Not stopping play after a nasty-looking collision. Then booking Ake for it. Blowing his whistle at Ederson when two up.

Btw, I thought you couldn't give a yellow card if you played advantage? Not sure why not, in all honesty, but isn't that the rule?

From the laws of the game...

Advantage

If the referee plays the advantage for an offence for which a caution/sending-off would have been issued had play been stopped, this caution/sending-off must be issued when the ball is next out of play. However, if the offence was denying the opposing team an obvious goal-scoring opportunity, the player is cautioned for unsporting behaviour; if the offence was interfering with or stopping a promising attack, the player is not cautioned.

 

[Blue Mist]

Disgraceful performance by Andy Madley today.
How United kept all 11 on the field is bewildering enough but how Fernandes avoided even a yellow is just as bad as it gets.

It's not bewildering. They need 11 v 11 to keep Sky happy. Its why Milner never got sent off v us.
It was 7 nowt, can you imagine the score if Madely had done his job ? Infringements are ignored for the sake of 'the product' and that's corruption, plain and simple.

 

[RayCTID]

Makes you wonder what Madley's performance would have been if it was a tight contest

 

[Gone for a Burton]

The 2 arse cheeks kicked fuck oot of each other today.

McTossery & RatFace should both have been sent orff and Ratty should get a 3 month ban for pushing the official.

On the same ground agin the same opposition City have a goal corruptly disallowed cos Erling leant on a a scouser !!

Clear & Organised in plain sight !!

 

[waspish]

Seems var doesn’t get involved anymore after the new directive from Web the red! Wasn’t it I want referees to make the decisions on the pitch meaning soft arse apathy referees do nought! But when city player does anything the bloke on Var will tell the referee! Do you really think a city player would of got away with pushing a referee!!?

 

[city wright winger]

Seems var doesn’t get involved anymore after the new directive from Web the red! Wasn’t it I want referees to make the decisions on the pitch meaning soft arse apathy referees do nought! But when city player does anything the bloke on Var will tell the referee! Do you really think a city player would have got away with pushing a referee!!?

I remember aguero got reminded off the FA about his behaviour when he put his arm around Sian Massey