I thought the Ref was good and would be glad to have him against RM or in the final - but re the penalty given against Akanji - when he went to the monitor the screen was showing the ball hitting the hand and he did not spend more than a couple of seconds before giving the penalty - he would not have seen the ball coming off the foot!!Thought he was good last night, although booking Ederson without (I didnt see anyway) a warning was harsh.
Both penalties probably were in the letter of the law, which we all know is bollocks. Having said that I was sure I read somewhere if a ball deflects off another body part ie Akanji's foot onto the arm it wasnt handball but I could be making that up
Fair enough, I did say to my mate he's braindead getting booked in the 44th minute he'd done well winding the crowd up before that just get yourself to half time and carry on again in the second half
No, that has been one explanation as to why a pen wasn't given. Can't remember the details but it rings a bell or two!
There's no mention of deflections now in the laws. The relevant bit simply saysI thought the Ref was good and would be glad to have him against RM or in the final - but re the penalty given against Akanji - when he went to the monitor the screen was showing the ball hitting the hand and he did not spend more than a couple of seconds before giving the penalty - he would not have seen the ball coming off the foot!!
Thanks for that helpful clarification - hard to keep up with the current state of the laws.There's no mention of deflections now in the laws. The relevant bit simply says
So the ref only really needed to see whether he thought the hand position was natural or whether it had made the body bigger. We can argue all day about whether it was natural or not, but I don't think the VAR analysis needed to be any longer - unlike the muppet last Saturday who took 15 views to make an easier decision.
- touches the ball with their hand/arm when it has made their body unnaturally bigger. A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation. By having their hand/arm in such a position, the player takes a risk of their hand/arm being hit by the ball and being penalised
To me that still reads as it shouldn't have been given (i dont think ours should be either). Akanji was running. The last place your arms are when you’re running is flat by your sides. Thats the most unnatural place. The defection which could have gone anywhere, hit his arm no doubt, but as he was running its perfectly natural for them to be where they were!Thanks for that helpful clarification - hard to keep up with the current state of the laws.
As I said in an earlier post - the Richards handball against the redscouse would probably now be a valid penalty - although it was not back in 2012
Beanie?I can't say I blame you. I tried myself but keep getting acid flashbacks of a toy horse near the subs bench