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Churchlawtonblue said:
No he can't occupy a space, just because hes trying to block an attacking player, it's called a trip and it's a foul. If you don't play the ball and you play the man it's a foul all day everyday.
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Oh please do read what I have already printed off ref Law 12 above.
 
UsFansKnowNowt said:
Because Partey got to the playing distance first! It's as simple as that. However obstructive it may look, and as much of a foul it may instinctively feel, the Laws and their interpretation mean that Partey can legally occupy that space immediately in front of the ball before KDB arrives milliseconds later. If the ball was not so close to Partey's foot when he plants it down then I agree it's a penalty. However based on the TV angle from behind the keeper, you can see why VAR agreed with Oliver.

Remember, the laws are not foolproof as Rashford proved at the Swamp, and sadly can be very subjective in their interpretation!
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Also he didn't get to the so-called playing distance first. Look again KDB has his right leg their first and Partey then lunges in.
 
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UsFansKnowNowt said:
Oh please do read what I have already printed off ref Law 12 above.
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I've read it, KDB gets there first, Partey lunges in and takes him out. The rule says without contact right? Partey makes contact when he arrives second.
Please check the video and then tell me KDBs right leg is not in the so called space first.
 
UsFansKnowNowt said:
I dont want to really keep explaining about Shielding and Playing Distance, but the interpretation last evening was based on Law 12.
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Kev was unfairly held off by Partey’s arms and body…

Not to mention Kev beat Partey to the ball and was the only one of the two actually playing the ball (Partey was playing Kev and no intention of playing the ball).

It is a foul that has been given elsewhere on the pitch literally thousands of times.

And it has to be, because if it isn’t, it is a field day for players taking others out as the run with or for the ball.

I was never allowed to do that when I played as a DM and I was even sent off for a very similar foul in u20 match.
 
SebastianBlue said:
I found an alternate angle of the Partey-Kev incident that I think the part time refs in the thread may have had access to but we haven’t until now.

I can understand their thinking now, Kev absolutely does Partey from this angle.

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the refs on here have viewed the footage, its not a foul because the lad doing the kung fu kick was shielding the ball
 
UsFansKnowNowt said:
I dont want to really keep explaining about Shielding and Playing Distance, but the interpretation last evening was based on Law 12.
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that has nothing to do with what happened last night, if you think shielding means sticking a leg between kevs legs(he actually get kevs standing foot)

shielding means getting the body in front of the ball,partey didn't he basically stopped kev kicking the ball
 
The problem is that KDB has many superpowers including seeing into the future.
He knew Partey was going to be an arse all night long so kicked him early doors. - I think that's how the VAR clowns saw it.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
Also he didn't get to the so-called playing distance first. Look again KDB has his right leg their first and Partey then lunges in.
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Exactly. Kev's already locked and loaded. It's his ball to play. He's the only one interested in the ball. Partey makes no attempt to play it. Anywhere else on the pitch it's a free kick and a yellow, if it's breaking up an attack.
 
Gaylord du Bois said:
Exactly. Kev's already locked and loaded. It's his ball to play. He's the only one interested in the ball. Partey makes no attempt to play it. Anywhere else on the pitch it's a free kick and a yellow, if it's breaking up an attack.
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Yeah but it was too early to give, it would’ve been unfair to Arsenal…
 
UsFansKnowNowt said:
Because Partey got to the playing distance first! It's as simple as that. However obstructive it may look, and as much of a foul it may instinctively feel, the Laws and their interpretation mean that Partey can legally occupy that space immediately in front of the ball before KDB arrives milliseconds later. If the ball was not so close to Partey's foot when he plants it down then I agree it's a penalty. However based on the TV angle from behind the keeper, you can see why VAR agreed with Oliver.

Remember, the laws are not foolproof as Rashford proved at the Swamp, and sadly can be very subjective in their interpretation!
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He kicked kdb you fool
 
iceman said:
Oliver for the final
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Can't as he has already reffed an FA Cup final
SebastianBlue said:
It is a nailed on penalty.

Any of our players doing what Partey did to one of theirs anywhere on pitch would be given as foul (as it should).

That is running in, perpendicular to the attacking players movement, to block their leg to prevent a run/shot, with no intention to play the ball (only Ramsdale and Kev were even in a position to do that), which is always a foul.

He actually takes Kev out at the legs and people are arguing that Kev fouled Partey.

It’s laughable.

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And yet you ues replays that show Kev kicks him. Partey is merely defending, the only time he did last night
 
Ali B's Heel said:
"Not enough in that" I kept hearing the female commentator on BT saying and pretty sure have heard her saying it many times before in matches where decisions have not went city's way. Must be her go to phrase for glossing over city injustices.

Regards the penalty shout, Partey clearly isn't playing the ball but is he allowed shield it for the keeper? To me though, he lunges towards KDB so I'm inclined to think excessive and therefore penalty.

I thought Oliver was very one sided. Amazing to think Arsenal had only 1 booking and this for when Partey lost his rag with Grealish
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As you say in this instance he is allowed to shield the ball. No different to the player who shields the ball out of play without attempting to actually play the ball
 
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