jay_mcfc
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That was a woeful performance. Absolutely stitched us up.
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cheekybids
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Only once have managed to keep 11 players on the pitch against Barca & we won. That's how important yellow cards for persistent fouling is.
17 fouls to 7 yet 2 cards each & 1 of those was for a coming together in the last minute.
Imagine you are Silva & no matter what craft & tricks you do to find the openings all the marker has to do is kick you every fucking time. We know it & every opposing manager knows it & in our special league that "smack Ed" Davies is man of the match.
If we see it happening & want to give it back to show we're not a soft shite, immediately booked or sent off. How the fuck anybody can watch that & not see how it has a baring on our results is truly mystifying.
clattenburg is the best ref in the world , well I don't believe you get that title by simply officiating correctly. If you can go out there & dictate the results no matter what difference in teams then you are truely the best ref in the world.
The problem is our manager & players know it & that's where it's hard cos from the first kick you know what your in for.
17 fouls to 7 yet 2 cards each & 1 of those was for a coming together in the last minute.
Imagine you are Silva & no matter what craft & tricks you do to find the openings all the marker has to do is kick you every fucking time. We know it & every opposing manager knows it & in our special league that "smack Ed" Davies is man of the match.
If we see it happening & want to give it back to show we're not a soft shite, immediately booked or sent off. How the fuck anybody can watch that & not see how it has a baring on our results is truly mystifying.
clattenburg is the best ref in the world , well I don't believe you get that title by simply officiating correctly. If you can go out there & dictate the results no matter what difference in teams then you are truely the best ref in the world.
The problem is our manager & players know it & that's where it's hard cos from the first kick you know what your in for.
Only once have managed to keep 11 players on the pitch against Barca & we won. That's how important yellow cards for persistent fouling is.
17 fouls to 7 yet 2 cards each & 1 of those was for a coming together in the last minute.
Imagine you are Silva & no matter what craft & tricks you do to find the openings all the marker has to do is kick you every fucking time. We know it & every opposing manager knows it & in our special league that "smack Ed" Davies is man of the match.
If we see it happening & want to give it back to show we're not a soft shite, immediately booked or sent off. How the fuck anybody can watch that & not see how it has a baring on our results is truly mystifying.
clattenburg is the best ref in the world , well I don't believe you get that title by simply officiating correctly. If you can go out there & dictate the results no matter what difference in teams then you are truely the best ref in the world.
The problem is our manager & players know it & that's where it's hard cos from the first kick you know what your in for.
I couldn't put that better myself. We can't fight back without getting penalised.
cheekybids
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I couldn't put that better myself.
This is where it gets hard cos if you repeat that to any other fan we look like we're mad. Every one saw the pen at west ham - predicted in this thread & I think this is truly driving pep mad.
I think the penalty was difficult to see at the time, I thought Baines fouled initially until we got the slow mo shots. That being said its still another big decision against us.
I think free kick wise we done ok today too, the main gripe is how yet again one foul equals a yellow for us and 5-10 fouls gets them nothing
I think free kick wise we done ok today too, the main gripe is how yet again one foul equals a yellow for us and 5-10 fouls gets them nothing
This is where it gets hard cos if you repeat that to any other fan we look like we're mad. Every one saw the pen at west ham - predicted in this thread & I think this is truly driving pep mad.
As it always has been this league is all geared up for a select few. We are trying to keep ourselves at the top table but there is outside influences stopping us from maintaining that.
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cleavers
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Pogba on Henderson.
No official saw it.
The PL won't see it either, post match.
That's perfectly legal if you play for united, just like 2 footed tackles, stamps, and offside goals.
That's perfectly legal if you play for united, just like 2 footed tackles, stamps, and offside goals.
I appreciate we're all bitter, but it does make you wonder what is going on.
8 offside goals, Rojo X2, Big Nose x1, and Pogda x1 sending off's, and not 1 given.
cleavers
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A Rooney stamp today, no card.I appreciate we're all bitter, but it does make you wonder what is going on.
8 offside goals, Rojo X2, Big Nose x1, and Pogda x1 sending off's, and not 1 given.
Barcon
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I appreciate we're all bitter, but it does make you wonder what is going on.
8 offside goals, Rojo X2, Big Nose x1, and Pogda x1 sending off's, and not 1 given.
That's the 2nd time he's done that exact same thing this season.
The referee actually tried to give Rooney the freekick until the linesman told him to give it the other way. He was luckily backed up by Sky though, who showed one replay, saw it was a clear red so then didn't show any more, instead focusing on how nice it was of Rooney to talk to Milner while he was down injuredA Rooney stamp today, no card.
The referee actually tried to give Rooney the freekick until the linesman told him to give it the other way. He was luckily backed up by Sky though, who showed one replay, saw it was a clear red so then didn't show any more, instead focusing on how nice it was of Rooney to talk to Milner while he was down injured
TBH I've given up watching any football to do with MUTV Sky Sports and BT Sports. I can't stomach the biased commentating and ex-United and Liverpool pundits. You might as well subscribe to MUTV. It's either a live foreign feed, or regular interweb updates for me.
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Twattenberg did his job today.
Igored a blatant penalty claim at 0-0 and now the rest is history.
Igored a blatant penalty claim at 0-0 and now the rest is history.
UTD have been incredibly lucky. It's just a coincidence that we haven't. Focusing on their luck makes us feel worse. I believe we were getting the short end of the stick, but I also believe we spent much of the first half of the season causing our own problems.
The big disciplinary initiative this season was the crackdown on dissent. I noticed a change in attitude from the word go.
Except.... when we were playing. It was....oooh.... about a week, before we started being petulant, arrogant, dismissive - at times even aggressive - in the way we spoke to them. Pep's comments weren't helping.
Refs are emotional creatures like the rest of us. They see things 'getting better' for them, then see us very publicly disrespecting their colleagues on the pitch. What emotions do you think we inspired?
I think we got people's backs up. Then all but demanded the league has to make allowances for our style of football.
When Wenger said something not entirely dissimilar a few years back, he did so in reference to very visible incidents resulting in serious injuries. It created a debate about the protection offered to small, agile players.
This year, we've done it because we've lost points, or come close to losing them. And all the while, OUR discipline was really poor. We were more likely to be recklessly/aggressively causing injury, than suffering it.
(It won't have helped that someone like Ota is an obvious case of a con artist who only gets away with it because his attempts to influence the ref are so... weak ...nobody pays any attention.)
The big disciplinary initiative this season was the crackdown on dissent. I noticed a change in attitude from the word go.
Except.... when we were playing. It was....oooh.... about a week, before we started being petulant, arrogant, dismissive - at times even aggressive - in the way we spoke to them. Pep's comments weren't helping.
Refs are emotional creatures like the rest of us. They see things 'getting better' for them, then see us very publicly disrespecting their colleagues on the pitch. What emotions do you think we inspired?
I think we got people's backs up. Then all but demanded the league has to make allowances for our style of football.
When Wenger said something not entirely dissimilar a few years back, he did so in reference to very visible incidents resulting in serious injuries. It created a debate about the protection offered to small, agile players.
This year, we've done it because we've lost points, or come close to losing them. And all the while, OUR discipline was really poor. We were more likely to be recklessly/aggressively causing injury, than suffering it.
(It won't have helped that someone like Ota is an obvious case of a con artist who only gets away with it because his attempts to influence the ref are so... weak ...nobody pays any attention.)
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He wore his FIFA badge to prove it.Leave it out, he's the best Ref in the world
r.soleofsalford
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Silva got booked today after repeatedly being on the receiving end of worse fouls than he committed, forgive me if I`m wrong but I didnt notice any of Silva Assassins get talked to never mind booked.