Religion

Religion is belief in something absent any proof whatsoever. Usually promising some sort of reward/continued existence following ones death. Immortality - that is life in some form after death - is intoxicating. Ergo religion.

If religious beliefs had little to no detrimental impact on society and instead was simply a matter of individual conviction - I'd have no problem with it. Instead, religion almost always devolves into antisocial behavior and violence.
 
Magicpole said:
I have faith i can sing really well, the evidence tragically contradicts this though. Same with the existence of god. All the faith in the world m9ves the dial not a millimetre.
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Off topic - my singing is woeful too. But for some reason my whistling is far, far better - but not excellent at all.

Perhaps we both should look into auto-tune.
 
Magicpole said:
l've tried that. Still sound kike a goose farting in the fog.
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For me - it's weird.

I try to hit notes all the time that my vocal cords can't sustain and thus my whistling is far better.

But it's more than just that - even if I lower the octave range and try to sing a song - sometimes I can't for the life of me hit the correct next note. But if I switch to whistling, I'm far better. Weird.
 
BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
For me - it's weird.

I try to hit notes all the time that my vocal cords can't sustain and thus my whistling is far better.

But it's more than just that - even if I lower the octave range and try to sing a song - sometimes I can't for the life of me hit the correct next note. But if I switch to whistling, I'm far better. Weird.
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Just a pity whistling is as popular as the clap these days. I feel your pain.
 
Magicpole said:
Even if a million scientists said they believed, that doesnt mean anything. A true scientist will expect evidence. Faith is useless. I have faith i can sing really well, the evidence tragically contradicts this though. Same with the existence of god. All the faith in the world m9ves the dial not a millimetre.
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Have you come across something like Thomas Kuhn’s Structure of Scientific Revolutions? In that he may speak along the lines that there can be a growth in the understanding within one paradigm, then enough data may come along that doesn’t fit in to that paradigm so there can be growth/opening into a new paradigm in which that data fits better. Obviously some may be so heavily invested in the old paradigm and so reject the new one. For me there is a faith in - that there are understandings beyond currently accepted paradigms. How beautiful is that? And the curious thing for me is that there comes to be a sense that how one chooses to see life can actually come to be a limit to one’s ability to understand life. To sum this up, one might say that a level of knowledge effectively comes to be a level of ignorance as one opens to a deeper understanding AND both ignorance and understanding are both seen to expressions of the same ’scale of awareness.’ Cheers :)
 
BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
Religion is belief in something absent any proof whatsoever. Usually promising some sort of reward/continued existence following ones death. Immortality - that is life in some form after death - is intoxicating. Ergo religion.

If religious beliefs had little to no detrimental impact on society and instead was simply a matter of individual conviction - I'd have no problem with it. Instead, religion almost always devolves into antisocial behavior and violence.
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That’s your understanding of religion and you can choose to go with that. I choose not to limit myself to your understanding.
 
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