robin van persie (continued)

[BlueMoonz1977]

Re: robin van persie

HART
RICHARDS KOMPANY LESCOTT CLICHY


YAYA MARTINEZ


SILVA BALE

AGUERO

HUNTELAAR


SUBS: Pant, Barry, Zaba, Sneijder, Balo, Tevez, Nasri


I'd be happy with this...but doubt it will happen

 

[rastus]

Re: robin van persie

Apply your brain ffs, it was hypothetical.

The fact is that £15m+ per year is a major hit to balancing the books, especially for a player with little to no sell on value.

forgetting the sell on value id say its worth the gamble bringing in such a player as to where he could take the team champions league winners in the next 2 years with van persie? i make that over 70 million in revenue may just be a gamble worth taking if mancini feels he is one of the missing pieces!

That may have already been taken into account on recent aquisitions such as Aguero. The truth is, none of us really know where we stand with regards to ffp and what revenue the club is projecting.

Me personally? I see no need to take the gamble.

Aguero and Tevez (for all his sins) are top, top drawer players. Is there really a need to bring in RVP at such a cost? Mario could become a world beater this year. Striker-wise, I would ship out Dzeko and look to involve Guidetti and concentrate on strengthening the midfield by going all out for another player in the mould of Yaya (if there is such a player in the world).

Agree with this post

 

[OB1]

Re: robin van persie


That may have already been taken into account on recent aquisitions such as Aguero. The truth is, none of us really know where we stand with regards to ffp and what revenue the club is projecting.

Me personally? I see no need to take the gamble.

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You've just made it clear that you don't actually know if this would be a gamble in respect of FFP. It appears highly likely that City are very interested in RvP and therefore there's a pretty good chance that their calculations see him as affordable under FFP. Logical, really.

 

[Joehannes]

Re: robin van persie

HART
RICHARDS KOMPANY LESCOTT CLICHY


YAYA MARTINEZ


SILVA BALE

AGUERO

HUNTELAAR


SUBS: Pant, Barry, Zaba, Sneijder, Balo, Tevez, Nasri


I'd be happy with this...but doubt it will happen

Wow, how attacking is that bench?

 

[LoveCity]

Re: robin van persie

HART
RICHARDS KOMPANY LESCOTT CLICHY


YAYA MARTINEZ


SILVA BALE

AGUERO

HUNTELAAR


SUBS: Pant, Barry, Zaba, Sneijder, Balo, Tevez, Nasri


I'd be happy with this...but doubt it will happen

I love Huntelaar but he'd have exactly the same problems as Dzeko in our system, he probably leaves the box less than anyone except Gomez and when he was pushed further wide at Milan did not look in his element. Huntelaar would be the perfect signing for Spurs but I doubt he would go there.

 

[SamTheGuru]

Re: robin van persie

That may have already been taken into account on recent aquisitions such as Aguero. The truth is, none of us really know where we stand with regards to ffp and what revenue the club is projecting.

Me personally? I see no need to take the gamble.

You've just made it clear that you don't actually know if this would be a gamble in respect of FFP. It appears highly likely that City are very interested in RvP and therefore there's a pretty good chance that their calculations see him as affordable under FFP. Logical, really.[/quote]

So, you wouldn't keep your options open in the same situation with 3 months of transfer window to go. You wouldn't try to get a deal in place for a top class replacement with it being highly likely that Bayern are very interested in Dzeko. Logical, really.

Real life isn't football manager where you submit a bid one day and the player signs the next day (with the obvious exceptions). They are long drawn out commercial affairs.

 

[Neville Kneville]

His dad is quoted as saying it would be 'impossible' for him to sign for another English club.

 

[skybluecelt1990]

His dad is quoted as saying it would be 'impossible' for him to sign for another English club.

Link?

 

[Wrighty Wrexham]

Really dont understand how anyone could object to the possible signing of RVP.
Proven premiership goal scorer who consistently scores no matter how good or bad the rest of his team plays!
How many of our current strikers do that?
Dzeko has spells but when he doesnt have a run of games his first touch deserts him! Auguero misses some sitters and then scores some crackers and Balo and Tevez are hardly reliable to be on the pitch let alone regularly score!
RVP scores no matter what!!

 

[Neville Kneville]

His dad is quoted as saying it would be 'impossible' for him to sign for another English club.

Link?

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.mundodeportivo.com/20120608/fc-barcelona/barca-van-persie-arsenal-fichajes-messi-real-madrid_54309920594.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.mundodeportivo.com/20120608/ ... 20594.html</a>

 

[SamTheGuru]

Balo and Tevez are hardly reliable to be on the pitch let alone regularly score!

Let's not forget, this is only the first season at the age of 28 where he has not been regularly injured!

 

[Wrighty Wrexham]

Balo and Tevez are hardly reliable to be on the pitch let alone regularly score!

Let's not forget, this is only the first season at the age of 28 where he has not been regularly injured!

Yep agreed but he is hardly going to be overplayed at our club and if he picks up a niggle we have plenty of quality cover

 

[lionheart]

Re: robin van persie

HART
RICHARDS KOMPANY LESCOTT CLICHY
YAYA MARTINEZ
SILVA BALE
AGUERO
HUNTELAAR
SUBS: Pant, Barry, Zaba, Sneijder, Balo, Tevez, Nasri

I'd be happy with this...but doubt it will happen

You are quite right that it won't happen, Newbie. For a start, Dzeko is much better than Huntelaar. Secondly, Nasri will rarely start on the bench. Thirdly, we won't be signing Sneijder. Finally, Milner and De Jong will still be around next season and good job too. You really don't have a clue.

 

[OB1]

Re: robin van persie

That may have already been taken into account on recent aquisitions such as Aguero. The truth is, none of us really know where we stand with regards to ffp and what revenue the club is projecting.

Me personally? I see no need to take the gamble.

You've just made it clear that you don't actually know if this would be a gamble in respect of FFP. It appears highly likely that City are very interested in RvP and therefore there's a pretty good chance that their calculations see him as affordable under FFP. Logical, really.

So, you wouldn't keep your options open in the same situation with 3 months of transfer window to go. You wouldn't try to get a deal in place for a top class replacement with it being highly likely that Bayern are very interested in Dzeko. Logical, really.

Real life isn't football manager where you submit a bid one day and the player signs the next day (with the obvious exceptions). They are long drawn out commercial affairs.[/quote]


None of what you just posted supports the idea that RvP would cause City a problem with FFP. There's no point in the club pursuing options that they cannot "afford".

 

[SamTheGuru]

Re: robin van persie

None of what you just posted supports the idea that RvP would cause City a problem with FFP. There's no point in the club pursuing options that they cannot "afford".

What are you on about? I was "trying" to imply that we are more than likely exploring options.

If we sold Dzeko for say £24m then this would massively reduce the ffp blow signing RVP would cause.

£24m over 3 years remaining = +£8m a year
Assume 130k/week = +6.8m a year

Total +£14.6m a year

RVP @ £20m 4 year contract = -£5m a year
Assume 200k/week = -£10.4m a year

Total = -£15.4m

Year 1 = -£0.8m
Year 2 = -£0.8m
Year 3 = -£0.8m
Year 4 = -£5.8m (Assuming increased revenue by this point anyway)

See how it suddenly becomes more affordable with regards to ffp?

 

[wahooblue]

Re: robin van persie

None of what you just posted supports the idea that RvP would cause City a problem with FFP. There's no point in the club pursuing options that they cannot "afford".

What are you on about? I was "trying" to imply that we are more than likely exploring options.

If we sold Dzeko for say £24m then this would massively reduce the ffp blow signing RVP would cause.

£24m over 3 years remaining = +£8m a year
Assume 130k/week = +6.8m a year

Total +£14.6m a year

RVP @ £20m 4 year contract = -£5m a year
Assume 200k/week = -£10.4m a year

Total = -£15.4m

Year 1 = -£0.8m
Year 2 = -£0.8m
Year 3 = -£0.8m
Year 4 = -£5.8m (Assuming increased revenue by this point anyway)

See how it suddenly becomes more affordable with regards to ffp?

If RVP allows us to go DEEP in the CL....none of this matters. The CL income is all that counts. If we regularly are in semis and finals we will get more than enough cash to cover this kind of transfer. That said, sign Falcao.

 

[OB1]

Re: robin van persie

None of what you just posted supports the idea that RvP would cause City a problem with FFP. There's no point in the club pursuing options that they cannot "afford".

What are you on about? I was "trying" to imply that we are more than likely exploring options.

If we sold Dzeko for say £24m then this would massively reduce the ffp blow signing RVP would cause.

£24m over 3 years remaining = +£8m a year
Assume 130k/week = +6.8m a year

Total +£14.6m a year

RVP @ £20m 4 year contract = -£5m a year
Assume 200k/week = -£10.4m a year

Total = -£15.4m

Year 1 = -£0.8m
Year 2 = -£0.8m
Year 3 = -£0.8m
Year 4 = -£5.8m (Assuming increased revenue by this point anyway)

See how it suddenly becomes more affordable with regards to ffp?

Oh I'm sorry, I didn't pick up the fact that you thought we might sign RvP and not get rid of one of our four main strikers; an idea so stupid that I mistook what you meant by "as it stands", which I took to mean as the rules currently stand.

And FYI, I don't need any help with financial calculations from anyone on this forum.

 

[Heart.net]

Re: robin van persie

Oh I'm sorry, I didn't pick up the fact that you thought we might sign RvP and not get rid of one of our four main strikers; an idea so stupid that I mistook what you meant by "as it stands", which I took to mean as the rules currently stand.

And FYI, I don't need any help with financial calculations from anyone on this forum.

The Force is strong with this one.

 

[McFcMiKe7]

Daily Mail reporting that RVPs' dad said that he isn't going to a premier league club. I hope its true, never been a big fan of him personally.

 

[SamTheGuru]

Re: robin van persie

None of what you just posted supports the idea that RvP would cause City a problem with FFP. There's no point in the club pursuing options that they cannot "afford".

What are you on about? I was "trying" to imply that we are more than likely exploring options.

If we sold Dzeko for say £24m then this would massively reduce the ffp blow signing RVP would cause.

£24m over 3 years remaining = +£8m a year
Assume 130k/week = +6.8m a year

Total +£14.6m a year

RVP @ £20m 4 year contract = -£5m a year
Assume 200k/week = -£10.4m a year

Total = -£15.4m

Year 1 = -£0.8m
Year 2 = -£0.8m
Year 3 = -£0.8m
Year 4 = -£5.8m (Assuming increased revenue by this point anyway)

See how it suddenly becomes more affordable with regards to ffp?

Oh I'm sorry, I didn't pick up the fact that you thought we might sign RvP and not get rid of one of our four main strikers; an idea so stupid that I mistook what you meant by "as it stands", which I took to mean as the rules currently stand.

And FYI, I don't need any help with financial calculations from anyone on this forum.

So basically you are back handedly agreeing with my original statement. Geeze. Wrong time of the month or something?