Robinho in 10-0 Santos Win

[Pigeonho]

That's a very blinkered view of Brazilian football.

No, it's the league he's playing in now.

And yes, this might only be the regional league, but he would have known how the Brazilian League was structured, and who he would be playing against, and chose to play there instead of playing in the Premier League.

Cheers.

Ono, its not a blinkered view at all. The Brazilian league is a joke unless its Santos v Sao Paolo or Corinthians and perhaps one or two others. These tiny sides in the regional league though, not exactly the test a £32.5m player should be competing in, is it?

 

[Bluemoon115]

No, it's the league he's playing in now.

And yes, this might only be the regional league, but he would have known how the Brazilian League was structured, and who he would be playing against, and chose to play there instead of playing in the Premier League.

Cheers.

Ono, its not a blinkered view at all. The Brazilian league is a joke unless its Santos v Sao Paolo or Corinthians and perhaps one or two others. These tiny sides in the regional league though, not exactly the test a £32.5m player should be competing in, is it?

I'll disagree with part of what you're saying.

The main Brazilian league is very competitive and good to watch, but at this time of year, they only have the regionals, which are crap.

But you can't use that to defend RObinho. He will know exactly how the league structure works, and chose to play in the warm up league now rather than the Prem.

 

[FORZA CITY]

Seems like a competitive league.

Tottenham 9 - 1 Wigan.

 

[Pigeonho]

Cheers.

Ono, its not a blinkered view at all. The Brazilian league is a joke unless its Santos v Sao Paolo or Corinthians and perhaps one or two others. These tiny sides in the regional league though, not exactly the test a £32.5m player should be competing in, is it?

I'll disagree with part of what you're saying.

The main Brazilian league is very competitive and good to watch, but at this time of year, they only have the regionals, which are crap.

But you can't use that to defend RObinho. He will know exactly how the league structure works, and chose to play in the warm up league now rather than the Prem.

I see your point, but for me if you're a £32.5m footballer who self-believes to be one of the best, playing in a regional championship is poor and for me says alot about the guy in general. Nothing like a sharp dose of reality, which in this case is Robinho realising he is not good enough to cut it in the best league in the world, so instead of striding to improve himself, he goes to a regional championship to show off his box of tricks. I'd be embarrassed if I were him, as its as hollow as it gets.

 

[ono]

That's a very blinkered view of Brazilian football.

No, it's the league he's playing in now.

And yes, this might only be the regional league, but he would have known how the Brazilian League was structured, and who he would be playing against, and chose to play there instead of playing in the Premier League.

He wasn't 'playing' in the Premier League, so yes he took that option rather than the sitting on the bench option.

The Sao Paulo State Championship is perfect for him to regain his confidence, his desire, his sharpness and fitness. By the time he reaches a decent fitness level, the Campeonato will start, which will mean he should go into the World Cup with around 3-4 months of continous and competitve football behind him...with the competition increasing at probably the same rate as his fitness.

I think the 10-0 win against a 4th division side who've only been a professional club for 4 years, has blinkered peoples views of the standard in Brazil. The Campeonato is a good standard league.<br /><br />-- Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:54 pm --<br /><br />

I'll disagree with part of what you're saying.

The main Brazilian league is very competitive and good to watch, but at this time of year, they only have the regionals, which are crap.

But you can't use that to defend RObinho. He will know exactly how the league structure works, and chose to play in the warm up league now rather than the Prem.

I see your point, but for me if you're a £32.5m footballer who self-believes to be one of the best, playing in a regional championship is poor and for me says alot about the guy in general. Nothing like a sharp dose of reality, which in this case is Robinho realising he is not good enough to cut it in the best league in the world, so instead of striding to improve himself, he goes to a regional championship to show off his box of tricks. I'd be embarrassed if I were him, as its as hollow as it gets.

But at this moment in time i don't think he believes he's one of the best. You could tell from the Stoke game that his confidence and sharpness was rock bottom.

I strongly disagree with the notion that he isn't good enough. He was the 4th top scorer in the league last season (Tranny only scored 4 more) in a season where we finished 10th and in a season where he didn't feature as a striker.

 

[LancyFoldBlue]

Heyt Mighty Quinn I run an under 12's team and we play some great stuff!!!!!

As for Robby i'd have him back tomorrow...Not seen Petrov get half as much stick this season and he has been worse also Stevie has struggled but no axe to grind there...how about we all try something novel and get behind the lads in teh shirt...If we had done this in the first place maybe his performance would have improved!

 

[samharris]

No, it's the league he's playing in now.

And yes, this might only be the regional league, but he would have known how the Brazilian League was structured, and who he would be playing against, and chose to play there instead of playing in the Premier League.

Cheers.

Ono, its not a blinkered view at all. The Brazilian league is a joke unless its Santos v Sao Paolo or Corinthians and perhaps one or two others. These tiny sides in the regional league though, not exactly the test a £32.5m player should be competing in, is it?

Could be worse eh.. could have gone to scotland :)

 

[Jim Tolmie's Underpants]

Can't believe all the Robinho bum boys are still defending this lazy, ungrateful clown.

He doesnt' give a shit about you and he doesn't give a shit about City.

Manchester City striker Robinho has reiterated his desire to extend his loan stay at Santos and hopes talks have already been initiated with the Blues.

Robinho returned to Santos in January, penning a six-month loan deal which is set to expire on August 4.

The 26-year-old, who spent the first three seasons of his career at Santos, has been in impressive form since his return and, having notched up five goals in eight matches, puts his re-found goalscoring prowess down to his happiness.

"It was the right choice," said Robinho.

"I'm good physically and mentally.

"I hope to continue like this until the end of my spell at Santos.

"Where I have to be happiest is within the four lines of the pitch, and this is happening.

"I intend to continue for long. I hope that the board is already addressing this issue.

"You just have to look at my face to see my desire to stay at the club."

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/manchester_city/s/1200235_robinhos_santos_wish" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... antos_wish</a>

 

[simon23]

funnily enough he was quoted as saying exactly the opposite to that a couple of weeks ago

so id take things said in the media with a huge pinch of salt.....things are often "deliberately" misquoted to make a story

at the end of the end of the day he is a superb player. He is not someone who is ever going to track back and put tackles in and chase lost causes, but from a purely attacking point of view he is excellent

having a player like him in or squad can only be a good thing in my opinion...but some people seem to want a team full of grafters.

we need to have a balance of both in my opinion

 

[Jim Tolmie's Underpants]

funnily enough he was quoted as saying exactly the opposite to that a couple of weeks ago

Source?

 

[simon23]

funnily enough he was quoted as saying exactly the opposite to that a couple of weeks ago

Source?

i aint going to go back trawling through the internet to find it. I cannt be bothered

but it was on SSN just after he left and on other websites etc

it went something along the lines of wanting to get fit and playing at santos, go to world cup and then he wanted to return to city to play and prove himself there

 

[dannybcity]

If the guy has any desire to one be considered one of the best in the world he's going to have to come back to Europe and impress. If he's happy being a big fish in a small pond then he's not the type of character we want. For the record I loved him and defended him to the end. His behaviour over the next year will have a huge impact on how he's viewed by me.

 

[Barry Conlons wig]

I wonder, do Santos have a 1bn quid development programme in place? ;-)

It was always doomed to failure, the Robbie signing. For me he put us 'on the map' in terms of people seeing him sign for us, and put in 2 or 3 good performances. I've seen lesser named players do better, but get slated more though, and I think the fact he is 'Robinho' clouded alot of blues. I hope he doesn't come back, he doesn't work well for our team and in all honesty is proving the level he can perform at right now, a league equal to what, League one? He did his job, he put our clubs name on peoples lips, and so for that I thank him. Now its time to move on and sign players who can cut it in the league.

That's a very blinkered view of Brazilian football.

come on then mr expert on brazilian football, pray tell me mr expert where do these brazilian footballers make a name for themselves, is it in the pub standard football of brazil or over on the european stage..... I'll let you into a secret psssttttttt its not in Brazil!

 

[ono]

That's a very blinkered view of Brazilian football.

come on then mr expert on brazilian football, pray tell me mr expert where do these brazilian footballers make a name for themselves, is it in the pub standard football of brazil or over on the european stage..... I'll let you into a secret psssttttttt its not in Brazil!

psssstttttt

PELE

Possibly the greatest player of all time (maybe aside from Maradona) played over 1,000 games in Brazil. Never played in Europe.

If the league was 'Pub Standard' why would European teams even bother snapping up the talent. I mean, there aren't many Real Madrid scouts watching the Wagon & Horses play are there?

Obviously the players make a name for themselves in Brazil. Ronaldo did at Cruzeiro, Ronaldinho did at Gremio, Romario did at Vasco. I could go on, but you've made your mind up on a player off the back of a handful of performances when nowhere near fit so there isn't much point. I'll let you get back to your tub-thumping. I hear that Adebayor is quite lazy....

 

[Unknown_Genius]

come on then mr expert on brazilian football, pray tell me mr expert where do these brazilian footballers make a name for themselves, is it in the pub standard football of brazil or over on the european stage..... I'll let you into a secret psssttttttt its not in Brazil!

psssstttttt

PELE

Possibly the greatest player of all time (maybe aside from Maradona) played over 1,000 games in Brazil. Never played in Europe.

If the league was 'Pub Standard' why would European teams even bother snapping up the talent. I mean, there aren't many Real Madrid scouts watching the Wagon & Horses play are there?

Obviously the players make a name for themselves in Brazil. Ronaldo did at Cruzeiro, Ronaldinho did at Gremio, Romario did at Vasco. I could go on, but you've made your mind up on a player off the back of a handful of performances when nowhere near fit so there isn't much point. I'll let you get back to your tub-thumping. I hear that Adebayor is quite lazy....

Garrincha aswell.

 

[ono]

psssstttttt

PELE

Possibly the greatest player of all time (maybe aside from Maradona) played over 1,000 games in Brazil. Never played in Europe.

If the league was 'Pub Standard' why would European teams even bother snapping up the talent. I mean, there aren't many Real Madrid scouts watching the Wagon & Horses play are there?

Obviously the players make a name for themselves in Brazil. Ronaldo did at Cruzeiro, Ronaldinho did at Gremio, Romario did at Vasco. I could go on, but you've made your mind up on a player off the back of a handful of performances when nowhere near fit so there isn't much point. I'll let you get back to your tub-thumping. I hear that Adebayor is quite lazy....

Garrincha aswell.

Sssshhhh, you'll get accused of being 'Mr expert'

 

[Jim Tolmie's Underpants]

Source?

i aint going to go back trawling through the internet to find it. I cannt be bothered

but it was on SSN just after he left and on other websites etc

it went something along the lines of wanting to get fit and playing at santos, go to world cup and then he wanted to return to city to play and prove himself there

No source then. Nuff said.

 

[US_Citizen]

Was the biggest Robinho fan until he tucked tail and ran back to Brazil. As they say when the going gets tough the tough gets going. Robinho is just another Adriano and Denilson. They all think they are the best players and don't need to improve. Real Brazil Legends Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Roberto Carlos, etc, etc didn't run home when they had problems making the starting XI. Robinho in the end is happy made his money and starts for Brazil.

Robinho just didn't have the work ethic to be the best. Don't mean running back defending with the center halves. Mean off the pitch. Here in the states we call it the Michael Jordan philosophy. Basically means to be the best you have to practice longer and harder than anyone else.

Now to the 10-0 Santos game. Robinho is suppose to be in his prime, played in the tougher leagues and yet he only scores one goal. Playing forward for a team that scores ten goals. Not impressive at all. Not saying don't celebrate or don't play with a smile of your face but those over the top celebrations against a team your beating ten nil tells a lot. Scoring that many goals tells you the other team isn't competitive. Who gets that excited for beating a weaker team. Thats like if City crushed Notts County 10-0 and we got all excited grantee Tevez won't act like he won the lottery. Be happy you scored but realize who it was against and what one goal means in a ten nil massacre.

Sorry for rant was holding that in since the coward left.

 

[Grand Master Ram Rod]

Get him back, make him captain and give him a pay rise!

 

[simon23]

i aint going to go back trawling through the internet to find it. I cannt be bothered

but it was on SSN just after he left and on other websites etc

it went something along the lines of wanting to get fit and playing at santos, go to world cup and then he wanted to return to city to play and prove himself there

No source then. Nuff said.

the fact that you used the word "Nuff" makes me even less inclined to bother, I know Im telling the truth and you know the point Im trying to make which is simply that the media in general will misquote, mislead and generally make up things which are generally untrue

For the record I dont think Robbie will want to come back and part of me doesnt blame his after some of the abuse he has got on here and in the stands by fans........from leading goal scorer one season to a focus of abuse in about a season just shows the fickle nature of some of our so called fans