Roger Daltrey: Rolling Stones a Mediocre Pub Band

[FogBlueInSanFran]

"Life's Been Good" is better than most things by most people.

There are few songs I sing at the top of my lungs when I hear them. That’s one of them.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Like very much.
But they're not a rock band. Not really. Both Becker (RIP) and Fagen are far too influenced by jazz in their composition, their chord choices, their phrasing, their tempos, to be considered rock in the classic sense of the word.

And one reason they are under said radar! Kind of a genre unto themselves.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

I guess what we take from this is, everybody has different views on music, I thought the Beatles were and still are the biggest band ever. Of course lots of people will disagree with that and thats fine by me.
But their statistics and facts are hard to argue against, but essentially I never regarded them as "Classic Rock" like LZ or The Who. The Beatles were principally a band who wrote songs and sang them. They were masters of the 3 minute song, in many genres.....30 number 1s proves that, 12 number 1 albums proves that.....plus they wrote hits for other artists which they didnt record themselves.
The Beatles were not a huge stadium band (although they did do the first ever stadium gig at Shea Stadium) like The Who and Led Zep, they didnt have a lead singer who posed and pranced around the stage like Jagger, Daltrey, Plant or Freddie Mercury, they didnt have a massive light show and props like PF, they just stood there with their guitars singing. A bit like The Kinks. They just sang songs.

The biggest 4 Stadium filling Classic Rock bands for me..
Stones
Led Zep
The Who
AC/DC
All with front men singers.

Pink Floyd are massive but not "Classic Rock" they are in the Progressive Rock category.
The biggest band of them all, not classic rock, sort of Pop/Rock song based ...Beatles.

So there you go, the worlds biggest bands ALL English and one Australian. Very poor showing by those Yanks :)

Be proud, up till The Beatles Britain never had any famous world musicians, even classical we were poor, The Germans had Beethoven, Mozart, The Yanks had all those R & B singers, Soul singers, Jazz musicians, Elvis, Sinatra etc etc. Britain had no-one, then along came The Beatles and what followed was the British invasion, of the world really.

Now you give us Radiohead, thanks a fucking bunch :)

There was a really interesting piece someone wrote a while back on the greatest American rock band that concluded “great” American musical artists tend to be “solo” — Elvis, Dylan, Springsteen, Prince, Michael Jackson, Sinatra. It made an intriguing objective case for The Grateful Dead. I’ll dig it up.

I’d guess my favo(u)rite American band that everyone would know would be either REM or Steely Dan but I have a few dozen more. The UK owns classic white boy rock and electronica/new wave. But as you note outside the rock context, the US were the forebears of jazz and blues, punk (with UK help), country and hip hop.

 

[Cotontoquinn]

There are few songs I sing at the top of my lungs when I hear them. That’s one of them.

Exactly the same with my old Dad but he is triggered by sight. His favourite is "Old Orange Flute" which is always embarrassing in the fruit section at Tesco. We can't take him anywhere near the Canadian peaches......

 

[urban genie]

Be proud, up till The Beatles Britain never had any famous world musicians, even classical we were poor, The Germans had Beethoven, Bach & Mozart,

I think Pachelbel, Holst, Handel, Britten, Elgar, Purcel and Vaughn williams may dissagree on that.

 

[Cotontoquinn]

I think Pachelbel, Holst, Handel, Britten, Elgar, Purcel and Vaughn williams may dissagree on that.

That was a bloody good City side in 1908. If only we'd had a proper striker.

 

[Bill Walker]

I think Pachelbel, Holst, Handel, Britten, Elgar, Purcel and Vaughn williams may dissagree on that.

They can try but they were all small time composers next to the giants.
Musically speaking no Brits until The Beatles had a huge effect on the world of international music.

 

[Cotontoquinn]

They can try but they were all small time composers next to the giants.
Musically speaking no Brits until The Beatles had a huge effect on the world of international music.

Sir Harry Lauder in 1911 was the highest-paid and most popular performer in the world and would go on to make 22 US tours. Huge in Australia and South Africa. Wrote most of his own songs and everyone was a classic. The worlds first popular singing superstar who dominated the English-speaking world until the late 1930s.
Get your history right.

 

[Bill Walker]

Sir Harry Lauder in 1911 was the highest-paid and most popular performer in the world and would go on to make 22 US tours. Huge in Australia and South Africa. Wrote most of his own songs and everyone was a classic. The worlds first popular singing superstar who dominated the English-speaking world until the late 1930s.
Get your history right.

He was English speaking world only. I said worldwide, Internationally.
Not Europe, not Eastern block, not China Japan, not South America, Arabia etc etc.
Maybe Get your facts straight.

 

[AliBobbyJ]

The Who
The Stones
Zeppelin
Who am I missing Foggy? ;-)

Not reading 14 pages but someone has to have The Kinks in there.