Cellarite
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It's always been prestigious for the big European teams. We're very snobby in this country about it.
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It's not as prestigious as the Champions League though, because it's second rate. It's not about being snobby. The fact is back when the European Cup was for the league winners only the UEFA Cup was definitely prestigious still. Now you're talking about the 5th best team in the major leagues going into it, and maybe being joined by some better sides knocked out from the CL. It's second rate.
The last team to win the Europa League and the league title in the same season was CSKA Moscow in 2005. In the past 18 years of the competition it's only been won by a team that has won the CL before 4 times - Chelsea twice and the rags as well as Porto. That's because they weren't good enough to be in the CL. The big European teams are in the big European tournament.
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I agree with all that. I'd still love to win it though. When Sporting Lisbon knocked us out and when Hamburg did, I was desperate to win it. If we had a nightmare year in the Champions League and finished 3rd in a group, I'd love us to go for it and would probably prefer it over the FA Cup and certainly over the League Cup. Once we've got one, I wouldn't be arsed anymore.
Personal preference I guess.
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If we did eventually win the Europa we would join a small band of elite clubs which have won all three major European trophies the CL, UEFA, and Cup Winners Cups. I think it would be worth winning if we ever fall short in the CL. The other thing I like about the UEFA/Europa is you get some fantastic away trips to obscure places which are often more fun than CL trips.
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Oh-oh; another treble incoming!
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Context is everything! If we're in it then I'd want to win it, definitely. But I wouldn't count it as a significant achievement because of what it is. I'd pick the FA Cup over it. The League Cup possibly too, but they're much of a muchness to be honest.
I hope more English teams follow West Ham's model of prioritising European competition. They stayed up, won the Conference League and so are in the Europa. Who cares if you're 6th or 16th if you win a trophy! Villa should go for it, with Emery they will do well in Europe. Brighton should go for the Europa, they've got a style that could really suit European competition.
I note the other poster, and whilst it would be nice to complete the set, my eyes are on getting more CL trophies than the rags. We're three away and I hear they're like buses!
Agree, I think that fee is based mainly on the fact he played for us. He was no better last season than many half decent CDM’s last season. He looks bright, but £60m is a little crackers to me.
wonder if this is our Salah-KDb moment where Chelsea sold them and not really building them into the team and came back to haunt them at rivals.
I dont think he is that great but hard to say with 19 y o players what is their ceiling. Looks expensive now, maybe in two seasons he will be regarded as brutally cheap.
Dont think he would have been far behind than Rico Lewis was when Pep started to give him game time last year. going for Phillips for 45m in hindsight is a strange decision, but lets see what Kalvin adds to City this season. good thing is he cannot really add less than last season.
I dont think he is that great but hard to say with 19 y o players what is their ceiling. Looks expensive now, maybe in two seasons he will be regarded as brutally cheap.
Dont think he would have been far behind than Rico Lewis was when Pep started to give him game time last year. going for Phillips for 45m in hindsight is a strange decision, but lets see what Kalvin adds to City this season. good thing is he cannot really add less than last season.
KdB and Salah were bought in as relatively expensive young players to the first team squad
and not given a chance.
I feel a better comparison would be Ake who had some youth development at Chelsea bit went elsewhere to develop.
I suspect this will happen a bit as we can't always develop players. If he had stayed instead of Phillips getting Phillips game time wouldn't have been much use. He probably needed time at Southampton.
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My thoughts exactly. He could turn out to be Rodri, he could turn out to be Dabo
We don’t need to gamble £60m to find out, leave that to the mentalists like Chelsea and the cult.
We already have the main man
So, Chelsea are about to drop another £90m this week. Still playing a 39 year old centre back, Brighton’s 3rd choice keeper.
Still no real goal threat.
It’s bizarre how bad their business is. I do think Poch will make a proper midfield 3 out of those 3 though.
Still no real goal threat.
It’s bizarre how bad their business is. I do think Poch will make a proper midfield 3 out of those 3 though.
LongsightM13
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I think they know the 115 is bollocks and so are trying it on and pricing in a breach
3rd choice ? I thought the keep was number one and doing really well
Johnny Mars Bar
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Pochettino is the biggest grifter of the lot. Done absolutely fuck all in his managerial career yet somehow has managed to con people into mentioning his name in the same sentence as the likes the likes of Guardiola and even Mourinho and Klopp.
Gets called a "young manager" as well by some quarters which is mental. He's the same age as Pep.
Shame he didn't go to the rags when they wanted him tbh, would've been the perfect fit.
Chelsea are winning jack shit.
He was axed in favour of a journeyman keeper as he was shite.
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£60m for a player who looked decentish for a season in a team that got relegated to play as back up for a £115m player who looked above average for a season for a team who finished mid-table is fucking mental.
Lay me out a line of whatever they're snorting down in Chelse before the game on Saturday and I'll be out partying till sunrise the next day.
Lay me out a line of whatever they're snorting down in Chelse before the game on Saturday and I'll be out partying till sunrise the next day.
Lovebitesandeveryfing
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Unbelievable. Nobody can ever again raise their eyebrows about what City pay out for transfers. I thought Jack was not worth what we paid for him at the time, and I still do, come to that (and I'm fond of Jack and appreciate the skill he brought to the table in helping us win the treble). If a nineteen-year-old who had one fine season at a team which was relegated can go for this, Josko is starting to look like maybe the bargain of the summer. As for hesitating over Paquetá, well, I'd now say go for it.