Ross Barkley

Danamy said:
My only worry is we're going to put all our eggs in one basket for this lad and miss out on the type of player/target we should be going all out to get imho

If we take our eye off the ball and miss out on Reus i'll be very disappointed, especially with Chelsea already slipping a nod and a wink about Barkley during the Lukaku deal.
If Bayern, Madrid or Barca want Reus we won't get him. We hold a slight advantage with Barkley in that English players have traditionally not favoured moving abroad, particularly in the recent past.
 
kenzie115 said:
Danamy said:
My only worry is we're going to put all our eggs in one basket for this lad and miss out on the type of player/target we should be going all out to get imho

If we take our eye off the ball and miss out on Reus i'll be very disappointed, especially with Chelsea already slipping a nod and a wink about Barkley during the Lukaku deal.
If Bayern, Madrid or Barca want Reus we won't get him. We hold a slight advantage with Barkley in that English players have traditionally not favoured moving abroad, particularly in the recent past.

Probably the wrong thread but in my opinion the only competition for Reus is Bayern, tough competition i know but he's too good not to fight over.

Barkley's got good potential but at the moment we require quality down the left side to give our team balance, also expect a left back to compliment our play.
 
efcblue said:
chris85mcfc said:
efcblue said:
That's unfortunate then, mate.

I'm sure there are other players you can afford.

That's just not really the way it works tho is it, mate

He will want to play at the top level and competing for trophies, and unfortunately Everton just doesn't cut the mustard

And just what are these FFP thresholds that we have got?

That's exactly the way that it works. You don't know anything about Barkley. He's similar to Gerrard in some respects; scouse, at the club he supports etc. He's still got a huge amount of developing to do and he knows that if he hops off to City a la Rodwell, he isn't going to make it. Hell, Everton even have Francis Jeffers coaching part-time and telling the youngsters about the mistakes he made as a player. Not to even mention the fact that the club has the last say on if a player stays or goes.

Remember this?: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27445475" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27445475</a>

You have more than enough money to buy Ross, but you can't actually afford to do so. You've posted huge losses for the last few seasons and while you just might be able to influence UEFA enough to get away with shelling out £60m for one player, that will never happen. You'd have no room to improve the rest of your squad.

KinkladzeSouthampton said:
The £60 million quoted price is just a wind up, Fill the headlines, International break kind of story, He's a £35 million player and once we put the money on the table, I'm positive Everton will negotiate, This isn't Daniel Levy we are dealing with, Kenwright's a nice lad.

Everton do not need to sell at all. If City want Barkley, it will be on their terms. There will be no "negotiation".

tolmie's hairdoo said:
I can tell you this £60m story in the MEN is way wide of the mark, in a quiet international week.

Roberto Martinez gave an off-the-record briefing to the Scouse pack last month telling them Barkley's asking price was £40m.

Exactly the same price City were quoted in the summer. We were willing to go to £25m at the time because of our restrictions.

This is absolutely not true. I have heard this rumour several times. Most people say that it was before a press conference.

There is no way that Martinez would that dense as to announce to a group of reporters that he has an asking price for Ross. There would be story upon story released with that direct quote. The fact that there hasn't been a single one should be enough for anyone to realise that this is bs, but even more so, the fans would have Bill's head if it were true, so he'd be under strict orders to tell nobody.

You have no idea what you're talking about. You have no connection to EFC.


Not true? I had colleagues in the room.

The briefing was off the record and was in response to the reports which City had leaked the week previous about the summer bid.

He told us that it would take closer to £40m for this deal to happen (The club's valuation/not his)

Funnily enough, the local press pack didn't feel it was worth risking their livelihoods to leg over a manager they have a lot of time for, and are dependent on a day-to-day relationship.

You state people know nothing about Barkley and then have the brass neck to comment on City's finances, when anybody with a modicum of knowledge already knows the next set of figures are break even.
 
First of all, Ignore the Everton fan, He seems to be living in a lovey,dovey world where people are loyal and playing for your boyhood club is the be all and end all, In reality, Barkley probably already knows he is leaving, Where is still his only question, Having said that we would have to butter up Everton because any chance of Barkley handing in a transfer request is slim what with how crazy and psychopathic football fans can be down that part of the country.

The Reus saga will point it's way to every other bit of business we do in my opinion, I don't get the vibe that it will be a long, drawn out type of transfer, Considering he has a buy out clause, Reus could reach an agreement with a club before the CL final, I.e. what happened with Gotze a couple years ago.

So that leaves us with two scenarios, 1, We start running down the road naked when ssn has a yellow ticker of 'Manchester City have reached an agreement for the transfer of Borussia Dortmund midfielder Marco Reus' and from there our summer signings gather pace, Which means we hold all the cards with Everton and therefore they need us more than we need them.

2, We don't get Reus and he goes to Bayern or Real or worst case scenario goes to Chelsea, We then have to go hard for Barkley, Isco, Vidal, Sigurdsson, Depay etc

There won't be any time wasting on this Barkley transfer in my opinion because like I said, Other transfers won't dictate it, Can we all agree he is our 2nd most important transfer target of the summer?
 
KinkladzeSouthampton said:
First of all, Ignore the Everton fan, He seems to be living in a lovey,dovey world where people are loyal and playing for your boyhood club is the be all and end all, In reality, Barkley probably already knows he is leaving, Where is still his only question, Having said that we would have to butter up Everton because any chance of Barkley handing in a transfer request is slim what with how crazy and psychopathic football fans can be down that part of the country.

The Reus saga will point it's way to every other bit of business we do in my opinion, I don't get the vibe that it will be a long, drawn out type of transfer, Considering he has a buy out clause, Reus could reach an agreement with a club before the CL final, I.e. what happened with Gotze a couple years ago.

So that leaves us with two scenarios, 1, We start running down the road naked when ssn has a yellow ticker of 'Manchester City have reached an agreement for the transfer of Borussia Dortmund midfielder Marco Reus' and from there our summer signings gather pace, Which means we hold all the cards with Everton and therefore they need us more than we need them.

2, We don't get Reus and he goes to Bayern or Real or worst case scenario goes to Chelsea, We then have to go hard for Barkley, Isco, Vidal, Sigurdsson, Depay etc

There won't be any time wasting on this Barkley transfer in my opinion because like I said, Other transfers won't dictate it, Can we all agree he is our 2nd most important transfer target of the summer?

I like the look of number 1 :-)

Either way the groundwork and foundations will be set in January with nothing left to chance in the summer
 
efcblue said:
chris85mcfc said:
efcblue said:
That's unfortunate then, mate.

I'm sure there are other players you can afford.

That's just not really the way it works tho is it, mate

He will want to play at the top level and competing for trophies, and unfortunately Everton just doesn't cut the mustard

And just what are these FFP thresholds that we have got?

That's exactly the way that it works. You don't know anything about Barkley. He's similar to Gerrard in some respects; scouse, at the club he supports etc. He's still got a huge amount of developing to do and he knows that if he hops off to City a la Rodwell, he isn't going to make it. Hell, Everton even have Francis Jeffers coaching part-time and telling the youngsters about the mistakes he made as a player. Not to even mention the fact that the club has the last say on if a player stays or goes.

Remember this?: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27445475" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27445475</a>

You have more than enough money to buy Ross, but you can't actually afford to do so. You've posted huge losses for the last few seasons and while you just might be able to influence UEFA enough to get away with shelling out £60m for one player, that will never happen. You'd have no room to improve the rest of your squad.

KinkladzeSouthampton said:
The £60 million quoted price is just a wind up, Fill the headlines, International break kind of story, He's a £35 million player and once we put the money on the table, I'm positive Everton will negotiate, This isn't Daniel Levy we are dealing with, Kenwright's a nice lad.

Everton do not need to sell at all. If City want Barkley, it will be on their terms. There will be no "negotiation".

tolmie's hairdoo said:
I can tell you this £60m story in the MEN is way wide of the mark, in a quiet international week.

Roberto Martinez gave an off-the-record briefing to the Scouse pack last month telling them Barkley's asking price was £40m.

Exactly the same price City were quoted in the summer. We were willing to go to £25m at the time because of our restrictions.

This is absolutely not true. I have heard this rumour several times. Most people say that it was before a press conference.

There is no way that Martinez would that dense as to announce to a group of reporters that he has an asking price for Ross. There would be story upon story released with that direct quote. The fact that there hasn't been a single one should be enough for anyone to realise that this is bs, but even more so, the fans would have Bill's head if it were true, so he'd be under strict orders to tell nobody.

You have no idea what you're talking about. You have no connection to EFC.

But you're on an MCFC forum and you're an expert on who or what we can spend due to FFP.

Do you realise how stupid and precious you sound.

Barkley will leave your club, you can bank on that.
 
ArdwickBlue said:
efcblue said:
chris85mcfc said:
That's just not really the way it works tho is it, mate

He will want to play at the top level and competing for trophies, and unfortunately Everton just doesn't cut the mustard

And just what are these FFP thresholds that we have got?

That's exactly the way that it works. You don't know anything about Barkley. He's similar to Gerrard in some respects; scouse, at the club he supports etc. He's still got a huge amount of developing to do and he knows that if he hops off to City a la Rodwell, he isn't going to make it. Hell, Everton even have Francis Jeffers coaching part-time and telling the youngsters about the mistakes he made as a player. Not to even mention the fact that the club has the last say on if a player stays or goes.

Remember this?: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27445475" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27445475</a>

You have more than enough money to buy Ross, but you can't actually afford to do so. You've posted huge losses for the last few seasons and while you just might be able to influence UEFA enough to get away with shelling out £60m for one player, that will never happen. You'd have no room to improve the rest of your squad.

KinkladzeSouthampton said:
The £60 million quoted price is just a wind up, Fill the headlines, International break kind of story, He's a £35 million player and once we put the money on the table, I'm positive Everton will negotiate, This isn't Daniel Levy we are dealing with, Kenwright's a nice lad.

Everton do not need to sell at all. If City want Barkley, it will be on their terms. There will be no "negotiation".

tolmie's hairdoo said:
I can tell you this £60m story in the MEN is way wide of the mark, in a quiet international week.

Roberto Martinez gave an off-the-record briefing to the Scouse pack last month telling them Barkley's asking price was £40m.

Exactly the same price City were quoted in the summer. We were willing to go to £25m at the time because of our restrictions.

This is absolutely not true. I have heard this rumour several times. Most people say that it was before a press conference.

There is no way that Martinez would that dense as to announce to a group of reporters that he has an asking price for Ross. There would be story upon story released with that direct quote. The fact that there hasn't been a single one should be enough for anyone to realise that this is bs, but even more so, the fans would have Bill's head if it were true, so he'd be under strict orders to tell nobody.

You have no idea what you're talking about. You have no connection to EFC.

But you're on an MCFC forum and you're an expert on who or what we can spend due to FFP.

Do you realise how stupid and precious you sound.

Barkley will leave your club, you can bank on that.
You shouldn't have really said that to him, he (like many, many more who seemed to think FFP was aimed purely at us and PSG) is just coming to realise how stuffed they are due to FFP. He's probably crying in a corner right now.
 
Barkley loves Everton like we love City, he'll only leave if Everton make him because they have been offered stupid money. Like a SWP to Chelsea situation. For what it's worth, he has a lot of potential but he is absolutely nowhere near the finished article, gives the ball away all the time and his injury record is ridiculous. I'd question the sanity of our executives if we pay any more than £30 million.

Much rather we go for a Koke, Max Meyer or Youri Tielemans. Koke in particular is the dogs bollocks. I'd say Pogba but he has Madrid written all over him.
 
Kippax Street 1880 said:
Barkley loves Everton like we love City, he'll only leave if Everton make him because they have been offered stupid money. Like a SWP to Chelsea situation. For what it's worth, he has a lot of potential but he is absolutely nowhere near the finished article, gives the ball away all the time and his injury record is ridiculous. I'd question the sanity of our executives if we pay any more than £30 million.

Much rather we go for a Koke, Max Meyer or Youri Tielemans. Koke in particular is the dogs bollocks. I'd say Pogba but he has Madrid written all over him.

Rooney loved(loves) Everton but moved to better himself and look at him now(spits)....Barkley will do the same and will be at City next summer...like tolmie said closer to £40m
 

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