Rugby World Cup 2023

[aguero93:20]

I assume lineouts are pre-rehearsed and have numbers to define which one the team is going to execute.

If that is the case, why are so many lost? They must be too predictable?

If you have a hooker that can throw a ball accurately, surely you should win the vast majority?

They're pre-rehearsed, but they're analysed to hell and back by the other team too, so they'll have a fair idea of where to contest.
A lot of teams are quite one dimensional in their approach as well, as time in training is limited and they aren't a priority for these sides, so they'll only have one or two plays and be easy to counter.
Throwing the ball straight isn't really a rugby skill as well so some teams suffer with that (Fiji). If you're struggling with throwing it straight you'll tend to throw towards the opposition slightly to avoid being pulled by the ref.
Referees make a huge difference too, for example the ref in the Ireland v England warm up game was unhappy with the Irish lifters and focused on them from the start (impedance), while imo ignoring quite a few English infringements(offsides), so Ireland’s lineouts were a lot more winnable for England.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

They're pre-rehearsed, but they're analysed to hell and back by the other team too, so they'll have a fair idea of where to contest.
A lot of teams are quite one dimensional in their approach as well, as time in training is limited and they aren't a priority for these sides, so they'll only have one or two plays and be easy to counter.
Throwing the ball straight isn't really a rugby skill as well so some teams suffer with that (Fiji). If you're struggling with throwing it straight you'll tend to throw towards the opposition slightly to avoid being pulled by the ref.
Referees make a huge difference too, for example the ref in the Ireland v England warm up game was unhappy with the Irish lifters and focused on them from the start (impedance), while imo ignoring quite a few English infringements(offsides), so Ireland’s lineouts were a lot more winnable for England.

Thanks for that insight. Helps an occasional fan understand the idiosyncrasies more.

Sounds like they should be worked on more, unless they don’t affect the result too much?

How can a team of players not have one that can throw a ball straight?

 

[aguero93:20]

Sounds like they should be worked on more, unless they don’t affect the result too much?

Depends on your playing style, Ireland under O'Sullivan and Kidney (late noughties and early teens) were pretty much impregnable at lineouts and great at stealing the opposition ones, but we worked on them endlessly as our entire gameplan revolved around kicking penalties for lineouts in the 22. We didn't play through the phases much. We've a different style now so priorities have changed in training. We can still execute the old drive-penalty-lineout-maul-try routine when needed but we prefer not to rely on the other teams mistakes as much, we're more of a proactive side.

How can a team of players not have one that can throw a ball straight?

Ask Fiji and Chile I suppose :) it is one of those things that's harder than it looks, but a tier 1 International side should have multiple players capable of it.

 

[Xhavenjoe]

If you have to position 15 City players. Where would you put them.

Seeing as Jack Grealish was semi Irish for a while, I reckon he could be a replacement for the now retired Peter Stringer.
Having said that, Walker might get a little confused and over exuberant if he thought he was playing with a name that could be mistaken for Peter Stringfellow.

 

[mexico1970]

I'll knock the trend here and say that I want England to win.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

I'll knock the trend here and say that I want England to win.

I can't see us winning but deluded comments on here about England getting the better end of the refs decisions makes me really wish we would.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Why are rugby teams announced days before games and not an hour before?

Does it not give their opponents more time to plan their tactics?

Especially when there are injury doubts. Let them think your best players are playing etc.

 

[domalino]

Why are rugby teams announced days before games and not an hour before?

Does it not give their opponents more time to plan their tactics?

Especially when there are injury doubts. Let them think your best players are playing etc.

It's almost as if waiting until an hour before is completely pointless and Nathan Aké playing instead of Gvardiol does absolutely nothing to change our opposition's game plan.

 

[Xhavenjoe]

Why are rugby teams announced days before games and not an hour before?

Does it not give their opponents more time to plan their tactics?

Not sure but they generally bring on about 20 subs.
I was watching one of the matches at the weekend and one team had used all their subs. One got injured and so they brought back on one if the original starters.
Was like watching the Miami Dolphins.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

It's almost as if waiting until an hour before is completely pointless and Nathan Aké playing instead of Gvardiol does absolutely nothing to change our opposition's game plan.

Yeah, now do Haaland or Rodri.