mosssideblue
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Not so sure on that. Do it and you face most of Russia being wiped off the map is probably a bigger incentive not to
Russian invasion of Ukraine
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Just seen Russian conscripts can only be sent to "Russian soil " maybe that was one of the main reasons for the "referendum '
This whole thread has been both disturbing and fascinating at the same time, with some much better informed posters than I am. For what it's worth, I don't think a deployment of Russian tactical nukes would result in a nuclear response from NATO. I think NATO would more likely carry out a direct attack using conventional forces, perhaps destroy the Black Sea Fleet for example, there is the capability to do this as I understand it. Also Russias tactical nukes would be deployed using cruise missiles which can be taken out with Ukraines existing air defenses, to be honest though I can't see what advantage Russia would get from using them, what would they attack? Tactical nukes are for taking out enemy concentrations like a carrier group or tank column, Ukraine keep their forces widely distributed only comming together when attacked or to mount a counter offensive.
RobMCFC
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Yeah, let's hope we are talking hypothetically, but a demonstration of overwhelming conventional force by NATO should be enough without having to respond nuke-for-nuke.
As already noted - what's being said in the back-channels will be completely different to what is said in the public domain.
As already noted - what's being said in the back-channels will be completely different to what is said in the public domain.
AlfGreyruinedmyday
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It will be interesting to see how many of the Russians retreat and how many surrender. This is the first significant test since Putin upped the ante with his mobilisation call.
Scottyboi
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Is he the record holder so far? I've got good money on a 6 hour turn around from Belgorod mobilisation to POW.
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Day 217 Review - Bolting the stable door...
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Thinking about Russians, Trump supporters. Flat Earthers, Dippers etc etc.
Fable: DON'T ARGUE WITH “DONKEYS”
The donkey said to the tiger:
- "The grass is blue".
The tiger replied:
- "No, the grass is green."
The discussion heated up, and the two decided to submit him to arbitration, and for this they went before the lion, the King of the Jungle.
Already before reaching the forest clearing, where the lion was sitting on his throne, the donkey began to shout:
- "His Highness, is it true that the grass is blue?".
The lion replied:
- "True, the grass is blue."
The donkey hurried and continued:
- "The tiger disagrees with me and contradicts and annoys me, please punish him."
The king then declared:
- "The tiger will be punished with 5 years of silence."
The donkey jumped cheerfully and went on his way, content and repeating:
- "The Grass Is Blue"...
The tiger accepted his punishment, but before he asked the lion:
- "Your Majesty, why have you punished me?, after all, the grass is green."
The lion replied:
- "In fact, the grass is green."
The tiger asked:
- "So why are you punishing me?".
The lion replied:
- "That has nothing to do with the question of whether the grass is blue or green.
The punishment is because it is not possible for a brave and intelligent creature like you to waste time arguing with a donkey, and on top of that come and bother me with that question."
The worst waste of time is arguing with the fool and fanatic who does not care about truth or reality, but only the victory of his beliefs and illusions. Never waste time on arguments that don't make sense...
There are people who, no matter how much evidence and evidence we present to them, are not in the capacity to understand, and others are blinded by ego, hatred and resentment, and all they want is to be right even if they are not.
When ignorance screams, intelligence is silent. Your peace and quiet are worth more.
Fable: DON'T ARGUE WITH “DONKEYS”
The donkey said to the tiger:
- "The grass is blue".
The tiger replied:
- "No, the grass is green."
The discussion heated up, and the two decided to submit him to arbitration, and for this they went before the lion, the King of the Jungle.
Already before reaching the forest clearing, where the lion was sitting on his throne, the donkey began to shout:
- "His Highness, is it true that the grass is blue?".
The lion replied:
- "True, the grass is blue."
The donkey hurried and continued:
- "The tiger disagrees with me and contradicts and annoys me, please punish him."
The king then declared:
- "The tiger will be punished with 5 years of silence."
The donkey jumped cheerfully and went on his way, content and repeating:
- "The Grass Is Blue"...
The tiger accepted his punishment, but before he asked the lion:
- "Your Majesty, why have you punished me?, after all, the grass is green."
The lion replied:
- "In fact, the grass is green."
The tiger asked:
- "So why are you punishing me?".
The lion replied:
- "That has nothing to do with the question of whether the grass is blue or green.
The punishment is because it is not possible for a brave and intelligent creature like you to waste time arguing with a donkey, and on top of that come and bother me with that question."
The worst waste of time is arguing with the fool and fanatic who does not care about truth or reality, but only the victory of his beliefs and illusions. Never waste time on arguments that don't make sense...
There are people who, no matter how much evidence and evidence we present to them, are not in the capacity to understand, and others are blinded by ego, hatred and resentment, and all they want is to be right even if they are not.
When ignorance screams, intelligence is silent. Your peace and quiet are worth more.