Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Ohrodneyrodney]

The conflict started in 2014 really.

Correct. So way before Trump then. Like I said, nowt to do with him !

 

[mancityvstoke]

The Albert hall

Free trade hall

Manc version

 

[PragueBlue]

Correct. So way before Trump then. Like I said, nowt to do with him !

I don't believe I said it was.

I think Ukraine will be thankful it's Biden, not Trump though.

 

[Ohrodneyrodney]

I don't believe I said it was.

I think Ukraine will be thankful it's Biden, not Trump though.

And as I said, only history will determine that. Let's see how it works out.

 

[SPIDERBOY]

For those on about 2014.....
There is a bit of payback at Illovaisk,Donetsk Region.

Slava Ukraini.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

If my memory is correct trumps presidency ended January 2021. The illegal invasion of Ukraine happened more than a year later. Under someone else's watch. Nothing to do with him. This will be sorted by focussing on the here and now not bellyaching about things long gone.

How can something like this be ‘nothing to do with him’. Are you saying Trump didn’t influence events in that region at all in his four years in office? Is it ‘nothing to do with’ Obama either?

‘Had less political power and immediate influence over events than Biden last February‘ would be more accurate and fair.

 

[SPIDERBOY]

The counter Southwest out of Avdiivka is towards Vodyane.
Also coming Northeast from Krasnohorivka,towards Vodyane.
Donetsk Airport has to be the objective???

Slava Ukraini.

 

[grunge]

Relations with Ukraine

A strong, independent Ukraine is vital for the stability of the Euro-Atlantic area. Relations between NATO and Ukraine date back to the early 1990s and have since developed into one of the most substantial of NATO’s partnerships. Since 2014, in the wake of Russia’s illegal annexation of Crimea...

www.nato.int

So you post evidence backing up my question rather than answering it?

Before crimea there were minor talks but no public interest, Since Russia annexed Crimea nato relations increased significantly.

If Russia had not annexed Crimea odds are nato Ukraine relations would still be minimal

There was no intention to join NATO before then.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine–NATO_relations

So, who caused Ukraine to talk to NATO?

 

[northendenton]

Only managed an E in English , but will take note.

Taking Es while sitting your exam may have had an adverse effect on your results

 

[west didsblue]

I'm pretty sure..but may be wrong, that Putin said no more encroachment from nato- no more encroachment from Russia. This was some sort of agreement? So why the fuck NATO and Ukraine started talks....makes you wonder who is profiting from this shit show. Surely not Biden and his son's ties to Ukraine??

Does it matter what Putin said? He is a proven liar. You only have to see a few seconds of his speech today.
I can’t understand why anyone who isn’t an absolute moron would take anything Putin or Trump say at face value.