Russian invasion of Ukraine

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SPIDERBOY said:
Yeah,and it will probably be "you need to fuckoff from Crimea as well,and we will leave you be"
Very,very stubborn Ukrainians mate,very stubborn.
If Zelensky said that's what he will do,that's what he will do.
I agree with you,but,I personally don't think he will negotiate.
He knows,as do you and I,at some point,Putin will only come back.

Slava Ukraini.
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He can be as stubborn as he likes mate but the sad truth is it’s not his call. If the US get itchy feet Ukraine won’t be able to fight on.

The compromise deal is:
- Power sharing in the Donbas with a referendum in 10 years to decide if they want to be part of Russia or Ukraine.
- 100 year lease of Crimea by Russia.

If offered something along those lines they are taking that all day long. That’s defeat for Russia but gives them something they can spin as victory.

The cherry on top would be:
- Ukraine join NATO (well we need them on side now as they have all our weapons!).
- A peace agreement between Russia/NATO that we will never attack Russia unless self defence and vice versa.
 
metalblue said:
He can be as stubborn as he likes mate but the sad truth is it’s not his call. If the US get itchy feet Ukraine won’t be able to fight on.

The compromise deal is:
- Power sharing in the Donbas with a referendum in 10 years to decide if they want to be part of Russia or Ukraine.
- 100 year lease of Crimea by Russia.

If offered something along those lines they are taking that all day long. That’s defeat for Russia but gives them something they can spin as victory.

The cherry on top would be:
- Ukraine join NATO (well we need them on side now as they have all our weapons!).
- A peace agreement between Russia/NATO that we will never attack Russia unless self defence and vice versa.
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Putin won’t agree to a Referendum unless they get to run it. And if he does the result will be in before the polls close.
 
metalblue said:
He can be as stubborn as he likes mate but the sad truth is it’s not his call. If the US get itchy feet Ukraine won’t be able to fight on.

The compromise deal is:
- Power sharing in the Donbas with a referendum in 10 years to decide if they want to be part of Russia or Ukraine.
- 100 year lease of Crimea by Russia.

If offered something along those lines they are taking that all day long. That’s defeat for Russia but gives them something they can spin as victory.

The cherry on top would be:
- Ukraine join NATO (well we need them on side now as they have all our weapons!).
- A peace agreement between Russia/NATO that we will never attack Russia unless self defence and vice versa.
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Putin would want the whole of Donbas,Crimea and Ukraine not to join NATO.
Then he would go back after a few years to claim a bit more.
There is no compromise with the ****.

Slava Ukraini.
 
metalblue said:
He can be as stubborn as he likes mate but the sad truth is it’s not his call. If the US get itchy feet Ukraine won’t be able to fight on.

The compromise deal is:
- Power sharing in the Donbas with a referendum in 10 years to decide if they want to be part of Russia or Ukraine.
- 100 year lease of Crimea by Russia.

If offered something along those lines they are taking that all day long. That’s defeat for Russia but gives them something they can spin as victory.

The cherry on top would be:
- Ukraine join NATO (well we need them on side now as they have all our weapons!).
- A peace agreement between Russia/NATO that we will never attack Russia unless self defence and vice versa.
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Do you really believe Russia would facilitate an unbiased or un influeneced referendum, because I think we all know how that vote would go now, never mind in 10 years. Russians have history for referendums

I very much doubt that.
 
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