Russian invasion of Ukraine

We in the west would be totally fucking stupid if we allowed them to win or even get close to stagnating the lines then it shows how brain dead our politicians actually are.
Totally agree! If the ruscunts are allowed to get away with invading one sovereign nation then they will try to take another and one after that and so on! Like Hitler Putin and Russia need to be stopped! Even if it means WW3!
 
Do you not think the lines are already stagnated. Very little progress being made by Ukraine sadly.
Did you also wave the white flag when we drew with Forest in February?

The right time, the only sensible time, to evaluate this counteroffensive will be when the clocks go back at the end of October. To characterise is as stagnated after a few weeks is absurd.
 
I was asked this morning what happens if Russia do win the war in terms of NATO. I honestly didn’t know what the answer was.
First thing would be what does Russia need to do to 'win?'

If they signed a peace deal today and the current occupied lands remain to be controlled by Russia as part of the peace deal, would they have won?
 
It’s hard to judge it as slow progress when we don’t know what the parameters are in all reality.

Zelenskiy correctly said that there was no possibility of negotiation and so retaking Crimea in full by default becomes the sole deliverable of the offensive. Equally we can assume that Zelenskiy is not so naive as to have believed that the support will remain for Ukraine to have 3/4 cracks at it.

On that front, the progress has been glacial and is only going to get even slower the deeper into the Russian defences Ukraine gets.

It’s been clear for a long time that Russia’s only tactic is to try and outlast the western support.

This summer Ukraine won’t retake Crimea, so Russia will get another 6/7 months to build more and deeper defences, more extensive minefields and the task next year becomes slower and more painstaking still, with the added issue of the US elections.

We all want Ukraine to have a full victory, pushing Russia back into their country, joining NATO and Russian GDP back in the 1800’s, but as of now barring an imminent spectacular collapse on the Russian side this years offensive could accurately be described as a stalemate.
 

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