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Russian invasion of Ukraine
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jim tolmies perm
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So much for fucking "know nowt" Western diplomats...
lee_wsm
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Wagner being told to go back to Russia after Belarus thought Russia was going to pay their expenses
The Stockport Iniesta
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It would help if the west gave Ukraine ALL the tools it needs to do the job. We've been slow, almost reluctant to give tanks, long range missiles, fast jets and still the yanks won't hand over atacms. The reason the nonces have such a strong defensive line is because the west gave them that time to dig in, by being too passive and drip feeding weaponry over too long a time period.Weeks into Ukraine’s highly anticipated counteroffensive, Western officials describe increasingly “sobering” assessments about Ukrainian forces’ ability to retake significant territory, four senior US and western officials briefed on the latest intelligence told CNN.
“They’re still going to see, for the next couple of weeks, if there is a chance of making some progress. But for them to really make progress that would change the balance of this conflict, I think, it’s extremely, highly unlikely,” a senior western diplomat told CNN.
“Our briefings are sobering. We’re reminded of the challenges they face,” said Rep. Mike Quigley, an Illinois Democrat who recently returned from meetings in Europe with US commanders training Ukrainian armored forces. “This is the most difficult time of the war.”
The primary challenge for Ukrainian forces is the continued difficulty of breaking through Russia’s multi-layered defensive lines in the eastern and southern parts of the country, which are marked by tens of thousands of mines and vast networks of trenches. Ukrainian forces have incurred staggering losses there, leading Ukrainian commanders to hold back some units to regroup and reduce casualties.
Scottyboi
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It's going to take over 10 years to demine Ukraine, wonder how many civilians will be maimed in the mean time post war. Never knew you could fire mines out of artillery, really scummy.
kaz7
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They need planes , high time they got them , too many lives lost on the good guys sideWeeks into Ukraine’s highly anticipated counteroffensive, Western officials describe increasingly “sobering” assessments about Ukrainian forces’ ability to retake significant territory, four senior US and western officials briefed on the latest intelligence told CNN.
“They’re still going to see, for the next couple of weeks, if there is a chance of making some progress. But for them to really make progress that would change the balance of this conflict, I think, it’s extremely, highly unlikely,” a senior western diplomat told CNN.
“Our briefings are sobering. We’re reminded of the challenges they face,” said Rep. Mike Quigley, an Illinois Democrat who recently returned from meetings in Europe with US commanders training Ukrainian armored forces. “This is the most difficult time of the war.”
The primary challenge for Ukrainian forces is the continued difficulty of breaking through Russia’s multi-layered defensive lines in the eastern and southern parts of the country, which are marked by tens of thousands of mines and vast networks of trenches. Ukrainian forces have incurred staggering losses there, leading Ukrainian commanders to hold back some units to regroup and reduce casualties.
Parrot or butterfly mines are anti-personnel mines,small enough to fit in your hand.It's going to take over 10 years to demine Ukraine, wonder how many civilians will be maimed in the mean time post war. Never knew you could fire mines out of artillery, really scummy.
Can be fired out of mortars or dropped from helicopters and aircraft in their thousands.....and the Russians have done that.
Need good eyes to spot them in woodlands,thats if you know what your looking for....average Joe Bloggs would not and end up with at least no legs.
Slava Ukraini.
Scottyboi
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Parrot or butterfly mines are anti-personnel mines,small enough to fit in your hand.
Can be fired out of mortars or dropped from helicopters and aircraft in their thousands.....and the Russians have done that.
Need good eyes to spot them in woodlands,thats if you know what your looking for....average Joe Bloggs would not and end up with at least no legs.
Slava Ukraini.
Been watching the vids on telegram today of them being demined, fuckers are everywhere. So many people are going to be maimed over the coming years.