Russian invasion of Ukraine

[grunge]

Random spit balling idea. the large TLK1000 underwater drone. could this actually be used as a launcher for missiles/air defence.

Like a reverse launch system the US has where containers full of tomahawks are dropped form large planes for launching.


have a system where a the bottom fills with water and the top has a boyancy aid attached to this floats vertically in the water.

 

[CTID1977]

Sevastopol has been Storm Shadowed again ;]

 

[Iassel]

Estonians saying the quiet bit out loud - this offensive was planned as a one-off by the western countries and they thought Putin would come to the table to negotiate a deal they’d force Zelensky to take - explains why the US were so critical of the ‘slow’ advances many times this summer.

Now they have to dig in and find as much funding as they can.

 

[grunge]

Estonians saying the quiet bit out loud - this offensive was planned as a one-off by the western countries and they thought Putin would come to the table to negotiate a deal they’d force Zelensky to take - explains why the US were so critical of the ‘slow’ advances many times this summer.

Now they have to dig in and find as much funding as they can.

I dont doubt that some countries hoped that this would be over quickly, but there are certainly some countries that have put in funding plans through to 2025/2026 from whats been reported over the last year. the EU has pledged support though to 2027.

EU offers Ukraine 50 billion euros through 2027

The European Union will provide Ukraine with 50 billion euros ($54.58 billion) in aid for 2024-27, the bloc's president said on Tuesday, ahead of a gathering in London to secure short-term financing and money to rebuild the nation from Russia's war.

www.reuters.com

As for a "slow" advance, really, what is it based on?. I know lots of people feel this is the case but there's nothing in modern history to base any expectations on. While I had hoped Ukraine could get through to the sea of asov in this offensive it was pie in the sky wishful thinking. I dont think they will get to Tokmak before winter personally but if they can get to some major road junctions things will open up for over winter offensives.

 

[St.Pauli support]

Small batch of ATACMS promised by Biden, say NBC:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...biden-zelenskyy-long-range-missile-rcna116876

I somehow think that would be a demand by Scholz to provide Taurus to Ukraine without staying alone in the focus, similar to Leopard 2 decision.

 

[SPIDERBOY]

Looks like US are meeting Ukraine halfway and sending M39A1 rockets.
"LOOKS LIKE"
Russian troops be seriously shitting it.

Slava Ukraini.

 

[SPIDERBOY]

Small batch of ATACMS promised by Biden, say NBC:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...biden-zelenskyy-long-range-missile-rcna116876

I somehow think that would be a demand by Scholz to provide Taurus to Ukraine without staying alone in the focus, similar to Leopard 2 decision.

I did post the other day,i still think they will give them.
although i think its the ones i mentioned above.

Slava Ukraini.

 

[SPIDERBOY]

I dont doubt that some countries hoped that this would be over quickly, but there are certainly some countries that have put in funding plans through to 2025/2026 from whats been reported over the last year. the EU has pledged support though to 2027.

EU offers Ukraine 50 billion euros through 2027

The European Union will provide Ukraine with 50 billion euros ($54.58 billion) in aid for 2024-27, the bloc's president said on Tuesday, ahead of a gathering in London to secure short-term financing and money to rebuild the nation from Russia's war.

www.reuters.com

As for a "slow" advance, really, what is it based on?. I know lots of people feel this is the case but there's nothing in modern history to base any expectations on. While I had hoped Ukraine could get through to the sea of asov in this offensive it was pie in the sky wishful thinking. I dont think they will get to Tokmak before winter personally but if they can get to some major road junctions things will open up for over winter offensives.

They do my head in with all this "slow" bullshit.
No army in history,has attempted to cross land that contains the amount of mines that lies in this land.
So as you say,what are they judging it against?...its never been attempted.
So if anything,they doing it quicker than any other fucker.
But i do think they will get to Tokmak before winter sets in.

Slava Ukraini.

 

[grunge]

They do my head in with all this "slow" bullshit.
No army in history,has attempted to cross land that contains the amount of mines that lies in this land.
So as you say,what are they judging it against?...its never been attempted.
So if anything,they doing it quicker than any other fucker.
But i do think they will get to Tokmak before winter sets in.

Slava Ukraini.

I hope your right. we'll have a really good idea in the next week or so I think.

If they can get through Verbove and get to the T0401 road I think things may start to open up more.

 

[cleavers]

@SPIDERBOY @CTID1977 I visit the ISW interactive map fairly regularly, and one of the things it shows is "Reported Ukrainian Partisan Warfare", do either of you know how mch of this is going on ? We hear about the odd event here, but not really very much, so don't really have any scale of what it actually involves.