Russian invasion of Ukraine

Not Supprised, just didn't think he would start fucking up so soon

I was shocked and impressed by his original statement.
I thought "wow, he has some balls" and was exactly what was needed to allow the Ukraine to defends itself properly.

But no, it was more like a little terrier. Loud sharp bark, then backs down and cowers in the corner shaking like a shitting dog. Oh well...
 
Not Supprised, just didn't think he would start fucking up so soon
Unfortunately his former trade makes him ideal for delivering biased partial truths. It's his skill.

The legal profession specialises in delivering opposing views of the same happening yet expects the truth and nothing but the truth from witnesses.
 
I know slightly off topic,But just imagine what we could do with the so called charity aid we spend every year..i do believe its about 18 billion...We could so much for uniteds roof...
 
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Not Supprised, just didn't think he would start fucking up so soon

There is perhaps an explanation for the sudden about-turn will post it in a mo.

From ‘The Analyst’ (Military & Strategic) X: MilStratOnX

STORM SHADOW - FLIP FLOP OR SOMETHING ELSE?

As I catch up from two weeks away, the one thing the new British Labour government announced that seemed both suitably hawkish and a ‘good thing’ - was the announcement that Storm Shadow missiles can be used inside Russia proper.
It made headlines and must have been a welcome surprise for Ukraine.
As usual the Russians freaked out about it and replayed their badly FX’d
destruction of Britain by nukes video.
Then relatively quietly the permission so publicly granted, was quietly withdrawn.
There was no explanation. It seems the new Labour government was unaware until later, that the French Government has to agree as well to the use of the missile in such circumstances and it hasn’t yet done so. (The same would happen if the French wanted to give permission, they would have to ask the UK). The permission is in the purview of the French MoD, and post election, only a caretaker government is in place and is unwilling to make those decisions. It could be weeks before there’s a new government.
Some suspected that the White House may have frowned upon the idea - and it might but it’s unlikely to have forced the issue at this stage.
If the UK government wanted to give permission then it’s unlikely to have backed off so quickly without a legal reason.
There is of course the other issue. And this will have quietly raised alarms in the MoD’s of Storm Shadow /SCALP-EG users. The Russians captured a near intact missile in the last three weeks.
Either it failed or was knocked off course by a near miss. Either way the video clearly showed the inspection of the guidance system, counter measures and warhead systems.
These things get found out all the time, there’s a litany of weapons systems that have become useless in this war.
The much awaited GLSDB failed miserably and just wasn’t up to facing Russian EW.
The much vaunted Excalibur guided 155mm shell has become so hopelessly bad after months of success, that the Ukrainians have stopped using it because of Russian EW - it just won’t hit a target anymore.
Nobody wants to see Storm Shadow go the same way.
It’s entirely probable that new missiles and older ones will need new
counter measures if they are even to be used again. There’s no point in wasting them just to see them fail.
JDAM’s munitions are an example of what had been stopped from being effective and now has been returned to service with considerable effect. MLRS/HIMARS missiles have been updated and improved.
War has the ability to prove reality is not what we always wanted.
The west relies on technical superiority and technology to outperform Russian military capabilities.
What was good yesterday might not be so good today or tomorrow. It’s what you do about it and the speed you do it that makes the difference. It’s not a lesson easily learned.
Enduring war requires enduring technological change and outpacing your enemies. China is watching, Russia is learning to counteract our systems - we have to keep the edge.
Nothing we built was designed for a war this long. It’s just another aspect of fighting it that has come home to roost. Learn from it.

Slava Ukraini!
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From ‘The Analyst’ X: MilStratOnX
 
There is perhaps an explanation for the sudden about-turn will post it in a mo.

From ‘The Analyst’ (Military & Strategic) X: MilStratOnX

STORM SHADOW - FLIP FLOP OR SOMETHING ELSE?

As I catch up from two weeks away, the one thing the new British Labour government announced that seemed both suitably hawkish and a ‘good thing’ - was the announcement that Storm Shadow missiles can be used inside Russia proper.
It made headlines and must have been a welcome surprise for Ukraine.
As usual the Russians freaked out about it and replayed their badly FX’d
destruction of Britain by nukes video.
Then relatively quietly the permission so publicly granted, was quietly withdrawn.
There was no explanation. It seems the new Labour government was unaware until later, that the French Government has to agree as well to the use of the missile in such circumstances and it hasn’t yet done so. (The same would happen if the French wanted to give permission, they would have to ask the UK). The permission is in the purview of the French MoD, and post election, only a caretaker government is in place and is unwilling to make those decisions. It could be weeks before there’s a new government.
Some suspected that the White House may have frowned upon the idea - and it might but it’s unlikely to have forced the issue at this stage.
If the UK government wanted to give permission then it’s unlikely to have backed off so quickly without a legal reason.
There is of course the other issue. And this will have quietly raised alarms in the MoD’s of Storm Shadow /SCALP-EG users. The Russians captured a near intact missile in the last three weeks.
Either it failed or was knocked off course by a near miss. Either way the video clearly showed the inspection of the guidance system, counter measures and warhead systems.
These things get found out all the time, there’s a litany of weapons systems that have become useless in this war.
The much awaited GLSDB failed miserably and just wasn’t up to facing Russian EW.
The much vaunted Excalibur guided 155mm shell has become so hopelessly bad after months of success, that the Ukrainians have stopped using it because of Russian EW - it just won’t hit a target anymore.
Nobody wants to see Storm Shadow go the same way.
It’s entirely probable that new missiles and older ones will need new
counter measures if they are even to be used again. There’s no point in wasting them just to see them fail.
JDAM’s munitions are an example of what had been stopped from being effective and now has been returned to service with considerable effect. MLRS/HIMARS missiles have been updated and improved.
War has the ability to prove reality is not what we always wanted.
The west relies on technical superiority and technology to outperform Russian military capabilities.
What was good yesterday might not be so good today or tomorrow. It’s what you do about it and the speed you do it that makes the difference. It’s not a lesson easily learned.
Enduring war requires enduring technological change and outpacing your enemies. China is watching, Russia is learning to counteract our systems - we have to keep the edge.
Nothing we built was designed for a war this long. It’s just another aspect of fighting it that has come home to roost. Learn from it.

Slava Ukraini!
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From ‘The Analyst’ X: MilStratOnX
As I suspected this supposed about face on the use of Storm Shadow was a lot more nuanced than the anti-Starmer frothers are making out. It’s certainly true that he should have checked and been 100% sure it was in his purview to give that authorisation but it’s hardly the fuck up that some people are making out.
 
As I suspected this supposed about face on the use of Storm Shadow was a lot more nuanced than the anti-Starmer frothers are making out. It’s certainly true that he should have checked and been 100% sure it was in his purview to give that authorisation but it’s hardly the fuck up that some people are making out.
C’mon. A major faux pas at the very least. Page one. Book one stuff. Extremely naive not to be 100% sure before he came out with it. Basic.
 
C’mon. A major faux pas at the very least. Page one. Book one stuff. Extremely naive not to be 100% sure before he came out with it. Basic.
Wouldn’t argue with that. A mistake he shouldn’t have made but I guess he’ll learn.
 
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C’mon. A major faux pas at the very least. Page one. Book one stuff. Extremely naive not to be 100% sure before he came out with it. Basic.

To be fair he just repeated what Heappey, Wallace, Shapps and Cameron all said before now.

Heappey back in 2022, Ukraine free to hit inside Russia with UK weapons.


The fact that the Conservatives lied about it is a bigger shame. it was only when Starmer mentioned it and got called out that it came out that it wasn't the case.
 
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To be fair he just repeated what Heappey, Wallace, Shapps and Cameron all said before now.

Heappey back in 2022, Ukraine free to hit inside Russia with UK weapons.

Oh, so just because they fucked up totally and got it wrong, it's OK for him to get it wrong also?
You would think and hope he would learn from that. For a man of his background and training, it is somewhat embarrassing, to say the least.
 

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