Russian invasion of Ukraine
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lee_wsm
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Saw a video putin going on about how strong a navel reputation they have. Well Ukraine without a navy have pissed all over your strong naval reputation.
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Sorry been busy...
Stuff 02/08:
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Stuff 02/08:
Russian stuff blowing up: Another Russian air defense system gets trashed
Putin might have to divert some of the air defense around his palaces if this keeps up. A Russian armored vehicle opens fire on Ukrainian positions at Chasiv Yar and is taken out by a Ukrainian drone. The first sign that something was wrong should have...
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Day 892 Review:
Ukraine Invasion Day 892: Russia's Morozovsk air base hit by missile strike
Morozovsk air base in Rostov Oblast, Russia hit by missile strike tonight, detonating what appears to be an ammo depot with multiple secondary explosions visible including a multi-story building in Oryol, Russia, The People's Front's "Kulibin Club"...
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Stuff 03/08:
Russian stuff blowing up: Ukrainian attacks devastate Russian air base, sink Russian sub
Ukraine launched a devastating attack on the Russian air base at Morozovsk. The base is reported to be the home of Russia’s 559th Bomber Aviation Regiment. It is east of Luhansk about 300 km from the front lines. This strike is like winning the lottery...
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From ‘The Analyst’ (Military & Strategic) X: MilStratOnX
RUSSIAN RED LINES
America and the NATO allies fretted over supplying defensive weapons to Ukraine in 2021/22.
Russia wouldn’t like it. They did and the Russians didn’t. But they didn’t do anything about it.
The argument over supplying tanks raged for so long, by the time they arrived the face of war had changed so dramatically that they no longer had the desired impact. Everyone worried over what the Russians might think, and the started suggesting the use of tactical nuclear weapons.
The tanks arrived and the TNW’s remained in their lockups.
Then there was arguments over giving Ukraine the means to defend its air space and the Russians threatened the destruction of every unit and that the whole scenario was yet another dangerous escalation. We sent the air defences and nothing happened.
Then we worried about supplying long range weapons like StormShadow and SCALP-EG. And we sent them. And nuclear weapons did not rain down on London or Paris, despite the bellicose threats.
And then we said we’d send aircraft - real fighters. And this too, said the Kremlin, was an insufferable escalation. But nothing happened.
Now they say they will shoot them all down. They can try and eventually they probably will. That’s war. Take a while to catch up with the numbers of Su-34’s Russia has lost though.
And the latest threats? If F-16 is based in Romania or Poland then Russia considers those airbases viable targets.
Okay then, so you’re going to risk injuring and killing NATO forces in a NATO country are you? I think not. Besides no Ukrainian F-16 will be carrying out combat missions from NATO territory because we are grown ups and we know that’s an act of war. But nothing is stopping them being serviced there, just as it hasn’t stopped the Mig-29 and Su-24’s being refurbished there either.
Every time we have allowed ourselves to think what Russia might do and it never has. And it never will.
So why are we still holding back from letting Ukraine use weapons on Russian territory? We aren’t the ones firing them. Ukraine is. Let’s not wait any longer. Surely we know by now what Russia’s response will be?
RUSSIAN RED LINES
America and the NATO allies fretted over supplying defensive weapons to Ukraine in 2021/22.
Russia wouldn’t like it. They did and the Russians didn’t. But they didn’t do anything about it.
The argument over supplying tanks raged for so long, by the time they arrived the face of war had changed so dramatically that they no longer had the desired impact. Everyone worried over what the Russians might think, and the started suggesting the use of tactical nuclear weapons.
The tanks arrived and the TNW’s remained in their lockups.
Then there was arguments over giving Ukraine the means to defend its air space and the Russians threatened the destruction of every unit and that the whole scenario was yet another dangerous escalation. We sent the air defences and nothing happened.
Then we worried about supplying long range weapons like StormShadow and SCALP-EG. And we sent them. And nuclear weapons did not rain down on London or Paris, despite the bellicose threats.
And then we said we’d send aircraft - real fighters. And this too, said the Kremlin, was an insufferable escalation. But nothing happened.
Now they say they will shoot them all down. They can try and eventually they probably will. That’s war. Take a while to catch up with the numbers of Su-34’s Russia has lost though.
And the latest threats? If F-16 is based in Romania or Poland then Russia considers those airbases viable targets.
Okay then, so you’re going to risk injuring and killing NATO forces in a NATO country are you? I think not. Besides no Ukrainian F-16 will be carrying out combat missions from NATO territory because we are grown ups and we know that’s an act of war. But nothing is stopping them being serviced there, just as it hasn’t stopped the Mig-29 and Su-24’s being refurbished there either.
Every time we have allowed ourselves to think what Russia might do and it never has. And it never will.
So why are we still holding back from letting Ukraine use weapons on Russian territory? We aren’t the ones firing them. Ukraine is. Let’s not wait any longer. Surely we know by now what Russia’s response will be?
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Day 893 Review:
Ukraine Invasion Day 893: UKR struck RU Black Sea Fleet's (BSF) Kilo-class submarine, again
Ukrainian forces reportedly struck four Russian S-400 air defense missile launchers, an S-500 air defense system, and the Russian Black Sea Fleet's (BSF) Rostov-on-Don Kilo-class submarine in occupied Crimea on August 2. Ukrainian forces reportedly...
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Them birds over Odesa.
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