Russian invasion of Ukraine

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Doesn't sound positive for the use of storm shadows into Russian territory, we really are making it hard for them to get this over with which makes me wonder what USA really want

The situation is hugely complex. The US has far better intelligence than any other NATO country on Russia. They will (rightly) feel they have to be very careful.

Long term, I expect the strategic goal is to neuter Russian expansionist capability.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Doesn't sound positive for the use of storm shadows into Russian territory, we really are making it hard for them to get this over with which makes me wonder what USA really want

They don't want Ukraine to win and that's for sure.

 

[Big Joe Corrigan]

Put a flak jacket on the fucker and deploy him to the front

Do they make them in XXXXL?

 

[BlueAnorak]

The Prisomer Exchange:

Russian stuff blowing up: Prisoner exchange brings long-held Ukrainians home

Update from the Kursk area: Russia continues its counter attack on the western edge of Ukrainian-occupied Kursk but Ukraine has penetrated Russian defenses farther west. This analyst makes some very good points about how Russia would respond to Ukraine...

www.dailykos.com

 

[BlueAnorak]

Last nights stuff (13/09):

Russian stuff blowing up: Prisoner exchange brings long-held Ukrainians home

Update from the Kursk area: Russia continues its counter attack on the western edge of Ukrainian-occupied Kursk but Ukraine has penetrated Russian defenses farther west. This analyst makes some very good points about how Russia would respond to Ukraine...

www.dailykos.com

 

[mosssideblue]

Doesn't sound positive for the use of storm shadows into Russian territory, we really are making it hard for them to get this over with which makes me wonder what USA really want

What’s been announced as thought a decision wasn’t due for a day or so?

 

[BlueAnorak]

Russia has finally had to redeploy around 30,000 forces from Pokrovsk offensive to Kursk to stop the rot. 60,000 from elsewhere...

 

[mosssideblue]

They don't want Ukraine to win and that's for sure.

Not sure that’s right

 

[JOGAMIGMOG]

Why can’t Ukraine BUY Storm Shadow missiles from NATO and then they can fire them wherever the fuck they want?

 

[fulabeer]

Why can’t Ukraine BUY Storm Shadow missiles from NATO and then they can fire them wherever the fuck they want?

The implication from Russia is that even given for free or bought, it still takes a Nato (trained) technician to target (using Nato data) and fire them, hence Nato attacking Russia.
This will not be true, as like any individual, Ukrainians can be trained to do just that.

Russia never sees the irony. Them getting ballistic missiles from Iran and North Korea is ok. Ukraine getting missiles from Nato, not ok.

Personally i think Nato should make a statement saying the Ukraine has been trained to use Storm Shadow and the like, and they are free to use as they see fit if ballistic missiles are used from Iran/N Korea. Give them the same threat back.