Russian invasion of Ukraine

bluesteel said:
Sorry for highlighting your lack of intellectual ability, I’ll stick to the football section of this forum. Off topic clearly isn’t the place for me.
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I think you've shit the bed pal, no amount of air freshener is going to compensate for that.
 
bluesteel said:
I think there’s been a logical, methodical plan that goes back a very long way, at least to 2007 when he put the world, and certainly Europe, on notice that Moscow would not accept the further expansion of NATO. And then within a year in 2008 NATO gave an open door to Georgia and Ukraine. It absolutely goes back to that juncture.

Back then I was a national intelligence officer, and the National Intelligence Council was analyzing what Russia was likely to do in response to the NATO Open Door declaration. One of our assessments was that there was a real, genuine risk of some kind of preemptive Russian military action, not just confined to the annexation of Crimea, but some much larger action taken against Ukraine along with Georgia. And of course, four months after NATO’s Bucharest Summit, there was the invasion of Georgia. There wasn’t an invasion of Ukraine then because the Ukrainian government pulled back from seeking NATO membership.”

And you clearly say:

SWP's back said:
The illegal invasion of Ukraine has NOTHING to do with NATO.

Not me embarrassing myself. That’s just you reading the bits you want to read and acting like a prick, there is a lot more to this that just NATO/Georgia/Ukraine, but you've constantly spouted shit like above (and below) on this thread ignoring key aspects of what is going on.

See this, same article

"Putin tried to warn Trump about this, but I don’t think Trump figured out what he was saying. In one of the last meetings between Putin and Trump when I was there, Putin was making the point that: “Well you know, Donald, we have these hypersonic missiles.” And Trump was saying, “Well, we will get them too.” Putin was saying, “Well, yes, you will get them eventually, but we’ve got them first.” There was a menace in this exchange. Putin was putting us on notice that if push came to shove in some confrontational environment that the nuclear option would be on the table."


Your response:

"That’s also bollocks.

Fuck me the absolute state of this thread."
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Why do you think the Russian's developed hypersonic missiles before the US?
 
SWP's back said:
Baseless argument? He wrote a 5000 word essay about it last year you ignorant twatbanana.

Every time you open your mouth, you take away any doubt whatsoever that you haven’t got the faintest clue what you’re talking about.
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It doesn’t matter that I can’t read his comment I know your reply to be correct. I think he either took financial advise to buy heavily into the rouble last week or spends all day in his mums basement wanking of to recordings on Putin’s speeches.
 
SWP's back said:
Oh my god you’re so bloody stupid. What you posted from Fiona Hill doesn’t make you right. Russia invading Ukraine does not mean it had anything to do with NATO. Ukraine we’re not joining NATO. NATO a rules dictate that they wouldn’t be able to join anyway because of the situation in Crimea (no country that has a border dispute is allowed to join).

Your “winning argument” based on what she is saying is not what you think it is. She is not saying the war is down to Ukraine joining NATO. She even says there wasn’t an invasion because the Ukrainian govt backed away from NATO membership. Well news flash, they never started the process for joining again either. NATO has NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS FUCKING INVASION. Her next paragraphs state why he is invading.

If you actually take the time to read the article you keep fucking quoting then do your best to comprehend them at the same time and then you won’t look quite so idiotic to the forum.
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It's you who's starting (starting???) to look idiotic mate. Not that you care, of course.
 
Scottyboi said:


Some more staged events for everyone, mad that there are cameras everywhere how convenient.
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Yeah that comment about “and they just happened to have cameras…” as if every **** doesn’t own a camera and take it with them absolutely everywhere. Honestly, these people have a vote and get called up to sit on juries! Frightening.
 
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