Saurez [FA release investigation findings]

[TheMidnightBlue]

Re: Suarez (merged)

Did you completely skip over that whole post that I've just written that explained all of this?

Don't start an argument that you don't have the knowledge to finish. You want "scientific repute", try this:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.pnas.org/content/63/4/1088.short" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.pnas.org/content/63/4/1088.short</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v437/n7055/full/nature04072.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v4 ... 04072.html</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929707640968" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 9707640968</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.getcited.org/pub/102702173" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.getcited.org/pub/102702173</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://press.princeton.edu/titles/4621.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://press.princeton.edu/titles/4621.html</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://dna1.genome.ou.edu/5853/outofafrica/MitoDNA-ACWilson-Nature1987.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://dna1.genome.ou.edu/5853/outofafr ... re1987.pdf</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v447/n7146/full/nature05874.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v4 ... 05874.html</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.plosbiology.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pbio.0040072" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.plosbiology.org/article/info ... io.0040072</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://hub.hku.hk/handle/10722/81471" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://hub.hku.hk/handle/10722/81471</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.plosbiology.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pbio.0050254" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.plosbiology.org/article/info ... io.0050254</a>

There's ten to be getting on with. Let me know when you finish and I'll provide you with ten more. And ten after that. And ten after that. You are literally talking about the most researched subject in the entirety of scientific discovery. We know more about human evolution than we do about gravity.

I'll have a look through them when I'm back from the gym in a few hours. I didn't see your post when I replied earlier though. At least we have evidence that proves gravity even if we know little of it, we are yet to establish the full evolutionary timescale.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ancestors-Tale-Richard-Dawkins/dp/0753819961" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ancestors-Tale- ... 0753819961</a>
Please go and buy.
Thanks.

I already have it funnily enough but I've got a few others to finish before I start it.

 

[smudgedj]

Re: Suarez (merged)

At least we have evidence that proves gravity even if we know little of it, we are yet to establish the full evolutionary timescale.

Oh Shit...

 

[Damocles]

Re: Suarez (merged)

I'll have a look through them when I'm back from the gym in a few hours. I didn't see your post when I replied earlier though. At least we have evidence that proves gravity even if we know little of it, we are yet to establish the full evolutionary timescale.

We are yet to establish a full knowledge of gravity. We have literally millions of pieces of evidence that contribute to the evolutionary timeline.

You don't know what you are talking about and you've been shown up. Give it up.

 

[Daveth]

Re: Suarez (merged)

I'll have a look through them when I'm back from the gym in a few hours. I didn't see your post when I replied earlier though. At least we have evidence that proves gravity even if we know little of it, we are yet to establish the full evolutionary timescale.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ancestors-Tale-Richard-Dawkins/dp/0753819961" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ancestors-Tale- ... 0753819961</a>
Please go and buy.
Thanks.

I already have it funnily enough but I've got a few others to finish before I start it.

 

[Comrade Buka]

Re: Suarez (merged)

Is MidnightBlue a dipper trying to divert from the topic at hand?

 

[1_barry_conlon]

Re: Suarez (merged)

Has John Barnes commented on this?

He's usually vocal regarding racism and i'd like to hear what his opinion is of what is happening at his former club.

 

[zandvoort blue]

Re: Suarez (merged)

I do not belive Suarez is a racist. He is merely a cheat who will stoop to do/say anything to provoke a reaction from an opponent.
Scrap the 8 match ban....and replace it with a life ban.....cheating fucker.

 

[Ezra]

Re: Suarez (merged)

this ban is a fecking disgrace for two reasons:-

1. It was on Evra's word alone (I shall ignore the fact he is a Rag)

2. Even if Suarez used the N word, to my mind there is no difference between the use of that as a "slagging off" word as compared to a whole multitude that exist in the Male Workplace which are used equally to derogatory effect - calling someone fat, thin, short, tall, bald whatever - its all the same - you are making a derogatory comment about someones physical appearance - why does the colour of someones skin STILL have special status in this respect in 2011? Its fecking ridiculous and society needs to get hold of itself and say - its either all or nothing? not some half baked situation rooted in history - don't get me wrong blacks and asians were treated disgracefully in the past, but that was then and this is now, the 21st Century

Hey Disco Steve, absolutely bang on the money.
The most level-headed enlightening post concerning this whole racial facade!

It was neither correct (especially point one), nor was it enlightening at all.

In fact, it was fucking moronic.

Fair play, you and your 'followers'(gang) just dont get it do you.
Racism at its root is bullying at its most evil but I tar you and your lot with the same brush. If anyone has an opinion that differs from yours you react with a venomous tongue, but as its SWP thats ok and accepted - in fact often applauded!
Going back to an earlier post, just because 'one' calls another 'black c@nt' or whatever, doesn't necessarily mean 'one' is a racist, though the expression is.
Unless 'one' states the fact, there is absolutely no way 'another' can prove that 'one' is.
Another post. There is absolutely no proof, for or against, that we evolved from
apes. Dinosaurs lived and died millions of years ago and we have absolute proof. Yet, 'we' are a much younger species yet not one scrap of evidence.
If you do the usual google you can find countless professional bodies to back up any side of the argument.

As an aside, My Wife and son are Asian and we have an adopted Indian daughter.
Forgive me and my apologies if I came across as somewhat simple/idiotic, what was the other, oh yeah-moronic

 

[Blue Hefner]

Re: Suarez (merged)

I think anyone who buys this 'he didn't think it was offensive' argument are pretty naïve.

Do you seriously think he goes round l'pool calling black people 'nigertio'? Can u imagine the scene in a bar/restaurant? 'Excuse me nigerito can I have a drink?' Really?? He would have found out pretty sharpish that it was offensive

He new exactly what he was doing and him/team-mates and Daglish have behave appallingly throughout

 

[Groke]

Re: Suarez (merged)

I think anyone who buys this 'he didn't think it was offensive' argument are pretty naïve.

Do you seriously think he goes round l'pool calling black people 'nigertio'? Can u imagine the scene in a bar/restaurant? 'Excuse me nigerito can I have a drink?' Really?? He would have found out pretty sharpish that it was offensive

He new exactly what he was doing and him/team-mates and Daglish have behave appallingly throughout

Yes, if true, Glen Johnson must get called it several times a day. Strange how Johnson hasn't mentioned this.

Suarez is a nasty little **** who used the word in an offensive way. whether he is actually racist or not who knows, but he is a horrible little cheating fucker.