Scotland Independance Referendum

[RandomJ]

Love how they accuse the UK politicians as "bullying" them with the Pound. Did they seriously think they could have their cake and eat it too? Talk about taking the piss. If they want independence so bad then they get everything that comes with it which means their own currency, taking their share of the debt, no more hand outs from the rest of the UK they go it alone.

If they get the yes vote then turkeys really do vote for christmas and we'll be ready with the cranberry sauce.

 

[mackenzie]

So an independent Scotland tries to insist that taxpayers in a nation it has just voted to leave have to continue to back the currency of this new foreign country and consider the welfare of this foreign country when setting interest rates etc. Also to insure the banks of this foreign country and to insure the foreign government if it needs support with its public spending etc.

Yeah right, fuck off. You are free to leave but not to impose terms on those that you are choosing to leave.

Walk away from UK and walk away from UK currency/ banking system. Good luck with that.

It seems to be the key plank of the SNP's economic policies, I am not sure the Scottish electorate have realised just how serious this is, and good of the 3 main parties to actually make a stand, you want to break away from the Union, you break away from the Union and stand on your own two feet

Absolutely.

 

[west didsblue]

There is no precedent for countries that break up to keep the same currencies. All the former Soviet republics have their own currencies as do the former Yugoslav and Czechoslovakian republics. The break up of all of these countries involved incredibly long protracted negotiations to decide what to do with the national debt and all came to agreements based on an equitable solution in accordance with the 1983 Vienna convention. From what I can gather only Russia took on the debt from the Soviet Union but they also took on all the liquid assets. However, if Russia defaulted, they would all still be responsible for the debt. They all still ended up with their own currencies though. If the Scottish Nationalists believe they can unilaterally declare a currency union and keep the pound or give up responsibility for their share of the debt they are incredibly naive. I suspect they can't be so clueless to actually believe this but are trying to convince the more gullible of the Scottish electorate that the nasty English are being mean to them with a view to getting them to vote for independence. Hopefully there is a majority in Scotland who see the SNP for what they are and will vote against.

The other thing I was wondering was with Salmond and Sturgeon leading the SNP, are there any other fish themed politicians?

Another thing that crossed my mind is that Nicola Sturgeon looks just like wee Jimmy Krankie.

 

[blueinsa]

As an Englishman, living and working in Scotland, this is fucking hilarious and to see work colleagues frothing at the mouth because we wont let them have their cake and eat it is pure gold!

Ive been told this morning my job will be gone and i will be deported pmsl.

 

[dazdon]

I'm not a real fan of the Jocks but they are being done a disservice here on both sides of the border and they deserve more than that.

The arrogance of the two inept leaders (regarding the pound) they have pushing this yes vote versus the spin and twist of the Westminster mob throwing doubt into the mix.

I don't think the Scottish should leave with the pound but that's just my opinion and by the sound of it there is a genuine consensus from London that they wont have it either.

The SNP have to come up with a viable option before doomsday or it's going to be a guaranteed no isn't it?

 

[blueinsa]

I'm not a real fan of the Jocks but they are being done a disservice here on both sides of the border and they deserve more than that.

The arrogance of the two inept leaders (regarding the pound) they have pushing this yes vote versus the spin and twist of the Westminster mob throwing doubt into the mix.

I don't think the Scottish should leave with the pound but that's just my opinion and by the sound of it there is a genuine consensus from London that they wont have it either.

The SNP have to come up with a viable option before doomsday or it's going to be a guaranteed no isn't it?

It will be a no anyway mate and Salmond knows it full well.

This is nothing more than a game with the preferred outcome on all sides more devolution and power for the Scottish parliament.

 

[dazdon]

 

[bernabias home shirt]

No . . . . 1/5
Yes. . . . 7/2

 

[blueinsa]

No . . . . 1/5
Yes. . . . 7/2

About right imo.

Barring a few, there is no real interest in going it alone up here.

 

[Balti]

I'm not a real fan of the Jocks but they are being done a disservice here on both sides of the border and they deserve more than that.

The arrogance of the two inept leaders (regarding the pound) they have pushing this yes vote versus the spin and twist of the Westminster mob throwing doubt into the mix.

I don't think the Scottish should leave with the pound but that's just my opinion and by the sound of it there is a genuine consensus from London that they wont have it either.

The SNP have to come up with a viable option before doomsday or it's going to be a guaranteed no isn't it?

It will be a no anyway mate and Salmond knows it full well.

This is nothing more than a game with the preferred outcome on all sides more devolution and power for the Scottish parliament.

More devolution and power?

Certainly as long as we south of the border don't have to pay for it

They get more than their fair share already

If they do vote no then the rest of the UK (i.e. the vast majority) should get a referendum on whether we would

a/ like to keep the current Barnett formula which favours Scotland financially at the expense of other UK taxpayers
b/ revise it so that Scotland get an even better deal from us
c/ tell them to fuck off and scrap the current deal so that we all get the same share

here is yet another perfect example of how our current politicians are screwing us and letting us down

no wonder the majority can't be arsed to vote anymore

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

You know your idea is pretty shite when all 3 parties stick together on a thought

 

[Centurions]

We're Manchester born & bred but have been up here for 20 years plus. All the Scots at work are dead set against it however Salmond was really sneaky in getting the 16 & 17 year olds the vote (I'm sorry but most of them couldn't tie their own shoelaces) which could be the wildcard.
I'm confident that it'll be a 'No' vote however if the unthinkable happens then first off we'll move all our bank accounts, ISA's ect to an English bank and then most likely follow them back down south.
They can then rot in their own juices.

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

We're Manchester born & bred but have been up here for 20 years plus. All the Scots at work are dead set against it however Salmond was really sneaky in getting the 16 & 17 year olds the vote (I'm sorry but most of them couldn't tie their own shoelaces) which could be the wildcard.
I'm confident that it'll be a 'No' vote however if the unthinkable happens then first off we'll move all our bank accounts, ISA's ect to an English bank and then most likely follow them back down south.
They can then rot in their own juices.

So you are quite happy to live and work in Scotland as a 'foreigner', but would throw the dummy out of the pram and head back to England if those born and bred there voted for independence?
Some folk would call this hypocrisy.
And they would be right.

 

[DelToro]

We're Manchester born & bred but have been up here for 20 years plus. All the Scots at work are dead set against it however Salmond was really sneaky in getting the 16 & 17 year olds the vote (I'm sorry but most of them couldn't tie their own shoelaces) which could be the wildcard.
I'm confident that it'll be a 'No' vote however if the unthinkable happens then first off we'll move all our bank accounts, ISA's ect to an English bank and then most likely follow them back down south.
They can then rot in their own juices.

So you are quite happy to live and work in Scotland as a 'foreigner', but would throw the dummy out of the pram and head back to England if those born and bred there voted for independence?
Some folk would call this hypocrisy.
And they would be right.

Not sure I agree with that.

If Colin Lee is an economic migrant then he is being perfectly consistent by leaving Scotland if it is in his economic interests to do. Just like some Polish migrants have returned from the UK to Poland because it makes financial sense.

If he was supporting Scottish independence but then returned to England following a yes vote he would be a hypocrite.

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

We're Manchester born & bred but have been up here for 20 years plus. All the Scots at work are dead set against it however Salmond was really sneaky in getting the 16 & 17 year olds the vote (I'm sorry but most of them couldn't tie their own shoelaces) which could be the wildcard.
I'm confident that it'll be a 'No' vote however if the unthinkable happens then first off we'll move all our bank accounts, ISA's ect to an English bank and then most likely follow them back down south.
They can then rot in their own juices.

So you are quite happy to live and work in Scotland as a 'foreigner', but would throw the dummy out of the pram and head back to England if those born and bred there voted for independence?
Some folk would call this hypocrisy.
And they would be right.

Not sure I agree with that.

If Colin Lee is an economic migrant then he is being perfectly consistent by leaving Scotland if it is in his economic interests to do. Just like some Polish migrants have returned from the UK to Poland because it makes financial sense.

If he was supporting Scottish independence but then returned to England following a yes vote he would be a hypocrite.

Of course it's hypocrisy - 'I'm happy to live with these idiots who can't tie their shoelaces just so long as they keep paying my wages and don't harbour daft delusions of autonomy, because then I'll be off, even though it probably won't affect me one iota anyway'.
How the fuck would a Scottish parliament make any difference financially?
Do you have a fucking beard, by any chance?

 

[DelToro]

So you are quite happy to live and work in Scotland as a 'foreigner', but would throw the dummy out of the pram and head back to England if those born and bred there voted for independence?
Some folk would call this hypocrisy.
And they would be right.

Not sure I agree with that.

If Colin Lee is an economic migrant then he is being perfectly consistent by leaving Scotland if it is in his economic interests to do. Just like some Polish migrants have returned from the UK to Poland because it makes financial sense.

If he was supporting Scottish independence but then returned to England following a yes vote he would be a hypocrite.

Of course it's hypocrisy - 'I'm happy to live with these idiots who can't tie their shoelaces just so long as they keep paying my wages and don't harbour daft delusions of autonomy, because then I'll be off, even though it probably won't affect me one iota anyway'.
How the fuck would a Scottish parliament make any difference financially?
Do you have a fucking beard, by any chance?

I used to have a beard and indeed got married whilst sporting a beard which, in retrospect, was a fucking catastrophe because every time someone visits the house and sees the framed wedding photo they say to Mrs Chabal "Now then, who does your husband remind me of? Oh Yes, The Yorkshire Rip......" trails off into awkward silence.

If ColinLee believes that Scottish independence will impact negatively upon the Scottish economy (and he is not the only one who think this) then he is acting rationally in wanting to repatriate himself.

Criticising the Scots now for being beard toting ginger barbarians whilst happily taking their money does seem a bit hypocritical I agree,

Now don't argue with me. I've just glanced at my wedding photo - those eyes, that beard (and no, I'm not talking about Mrs Chabal)..I'm beginning to hear voices. It's God - he's talking to me - pick up a screwdriver he's saying........................

 

[TGR]

We're Manchester born & bred but have been up here for 20 years plus. All the Scots at work are dead set against it however Salmond was really sneaky in getting the 16 & 17 year olds the vote (I'm sorry but most of them couldn't tie their own shoelaces) which could be the wildcard.
I'm confident that it'll be a 'No' vote however if the unthinkable happens then first off we'll move all our bank accounts, ISA's ect to an English bank and then most likely follow them back down south.
They can then rot in their own juices.

So you are quite happy to live and work in Scotland as a 'foreigner', but would throw the dummy out of the pram and head back to England if those born and bred there voted for independence?
Some folk would call this hypocrisy.
And they would be right.

And some folk would call it being sensible.

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

We're Manchester born & bred but have been up here for 20 years plus. All the Scots at work are dead set against it however Salmond was really sneaky in getting the 16 & 17 year olds the vote (I'm sorry but most of them couldn't tie their own shoelaces) which could be the wildcard.
I'm confident that it'll be a 'No' vote however if the unthinkable happens then first off we'll move all our bank accounts, ISA's ect to an English bank and then most likely follow them back down south.
They can then rot in their own juices.

So you are quite happy to live and work in Scotland as a 'foreigner', but would throw the dummy out of the pram and head back to England if those born and bred there voted for independence?
Some folk would call this hypocrisy.
And they would be right.

And some folk would call it being sensible.

Do you currently sport, or have you ever sported, a beard?

 

[Centurions]

So you are quite happy to live and work in Scotland as a 'foreigner', but would throw the dummy out of the pram and head back to England if those born and bred there voted for independence?
Some folk would call this hypocrisy.
And they would be right.

Not sure I agree with that.

If Colin Lee is an economic migrant then he is being perfectly consistent by leaving Scotland if it is in his economic interests to do. Just like some Polish migrants have returned from the UK to Poland because it makes financial sense.

If he was supporting Scottish independence but then returned to England following a yes vote he would be a hypocrite.

Of course it's hypocrisy - 'I'm happy to live with these idiots who can't tie their shoelaces just so long as they keep paying my wages and don't harbour daft delusions of autonomy, because then I'll be off, even though it probably won't affect me one iota anyway'.
How the fuck would a Scottish parliament make any difference financially?
Do you have a fucking beard, by any chance?

What a load of bollocks you just sprouted. For a start the 'can't tie their own shoelaces' comment was directed at 16 & 17 year olds which is true and the reason Salmond got them the vote because they're much more susceptible to voting 'Yes' without an earthly as to why they do.
If you'd read my entire post you'd have seen that I stated all (and I mean ALL) adult Scots where I work are voting 'No'.
I moved up here for work a long time ago and obviously know a lot more about the average SNP member than yourself. Try reading up on the news about how the SNP think they're keeping the pound regardless if the rest of the UK says you can't keep it. They have absolutely no plan 'B' since they first were going to vote for the Euro but have jumped ship since the Euro Zone crisis and are trying to pretend that it never was in their plans.

So you can stuff the hypocrisy jibe up your arse and swivel, dick for brains.

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

Not sure I agree with that.

If Colin Lee is an economic migrant then he is being perfectly consistent by leaving Scotland if it is in his economic interests to do. Just like some Polish migrants have returned from the UK to Poland because it makes financial sense.

If he was supporting Scottish independence but then returned to England following a yes vote he would be a hypocrite.

Of course it's hypocrisy - 'I'm happy to live with these idiots who can't tie their shoelaces just so long as they keep paying my wages and don't harbour daft delusions of autonomy, because then I'll be off, even though it probably won't affect me one iota anyway'.
How the fuck would a Scottish parliament make any difference financially?
Do you have a fucking beard, by any chance?

What a load of bollocks you just sprouted. For a start the 'can't tie their own shoelaces' comment was directed at 16 & 17 year olds which is true and the reason Salmond got them the vote because they're much more susceptible to voting 'Yes' without an earthly as to why they do.
If you'd read my entire post you'd have seen that I stated all (and I mean ALL) adult Scots where I work are voting 'No'.
I moved up here for work a long time ago and obviously know a lot more about the average SNP member than yourself. Try reading up on the news about how the SNP think they're keeping the pound regardless if the rest of the UK says you can't keep it. They have absolutely no plan 'B' since they first were going to vote for the Euro but have jumped ship since the Euro Zone crisis and are trying to pretend that it never was in their plans.

So you can stuff the hypocrisy jibe up your arse and swivel, dick for brains.

Little Englander hypocrite.
I would imagine most 17 year olds still possess more intelligence than you.
Who gives a fuck how the folk you work with vote?
Is that supposed to reflect the wishes of the entire population of Scotland?
You're just an economic parasite - happy to take the money when it suits.
So get your map out and find another country to pay your bills until they outrageously consider deciding their own fate, you joke.