Scotland Independance Referendum

BWTAC said:
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
BWTAC said:
Indeed, Salmon is not to be trusted, Sardines however, are the aquatic worlds most trust worthy.

Salmond is increasingly looking like a fish out of water.
I'm fine with Scottish independence as long as we can ensure supply lines of heroin and shortbread, even if it means venturing to Gretna Green to perform clandestine cross-border activities.

I can't see them voting yes when they see how much Buckfast Abbey will go up with import tax.

My half-and-half Rangers/Celtic scarves haven't proved hugely successful either, for some reason.
And don't even ask about my Tartan Army On Tour In Brazil holidays.
Hopefully my Papal visit of Ibrox will get my money back.
 
So apparently now Scottish Independence would be a 'cataclysmic' World event and threaten Worldwide stability and security.
 
smudgedj said:
sd92 said:
RandomJ said:
Fucking hell that gave me a great laugh. You sound like your stereotypical Scott with a chip on his shoulder reciting fucking Braveheart. Fortunately for you the majority of your people can apply critical thinking and understand that leaving would be a bad thing and so will vote no thus saving you from financial ruin. The only people so far I have heard who want the yes vote have been people who are only looking at it from an emotional POV and don't understand any of the consequences of such action. You should be thankful that there are people much smarter than you who can see past nationality.

Haha really? I should be grateful for people with a lack of vision to see what this country can achieve on it's own?

Of course there is an emotional tie, but by no means is that a deciding factor.

The fact of the matter is guys, whether you believe it or like it, we have the ability to go it alone. We have the set up to go it alone.

You seem to find it hard to comprehend that we have no say in uk elections but it's a fact. Now I understand a democracy, I do.

However, if you were ready to go independent, and were constantly undermined and lied to - I can pull up serious proof to back that up - and most of all were out voted most of the time, would you not think lets do this?

We have the resources to go it alone so why not

Really? And what would you do if Orkney and Shetland secede and take the oil with them?


Well the thing is what we want to do with the oil money is put in aside for a rainy day like Norway? I could be wrong on that.

Now I know it may seem like we have a chip on our shoulders etcs but I must stress I personally do not. I have no issue being British, contrary I'm proud to be so, just as much as I am proud to be Scottish.

We currently run on the taxes already set, discounting the oil money. We can continue to do so and put money into a fund, from the oil sales as is proposed
 
stonie said:
Was up there for 3 weeks and got talking to the folk up there in the pubs and out of the 10 maybe 15 people I asked about it only 1 said they would vote yea and she was a tidy bit of stuff with a PhD who worked at Glasgow university, proberly not an Accurate pole but went in both Celtic and rangers pubs with the general concencuss being that they don't trust salmon and think he is a knob.....and why fix something that ain't broken!!


A lot of people, me included, don't particularly like salmond or the snp in general. They are a means to an end. The thing is, it categorically is not a vote for either. Someone once said that small minds discuss people. Wherein I don't want to insult them per say, I would like to invite these guys to look well beyond salmond.

He's a tool
 
smudgedj said:
Mr Ed (The Stables) said:
I think most Scots want to stay in the Union.

If not then so be it, I'm an Englishman and proud of it.

If Independence comes it will be great to see all the Scottish MPs at Westminster leave and be banished back beyond "Hadrians Wall".

Perhaps we could repatriate all Scots that have settled south of the border. After all an Independent Scotland would not be part of the European Union.

That would create some jobs and housing!! Just a thought.

"Keep St George in my Heart keep me English, keep St George in my Heart I pray.........." and so the battle cry goes on!!

Don't forget the 5.3 million people off the books of the NHS and the huge decrease in Britain’s welfare bill.


You do realise that we find everything we do up here?

You guys benefit from our money?
We pay more in tax per head than you do?

This is not a chip on a shoulder it is a mere pointing out of facts.

We already pay for our own nhs. Our own welfare. We send money to Westminster and recieve a certain amount back. They spend the rest on rUK.
 
sd92 said:
smudgedj said:
sd92 said:
Haha really? I should be grateful for people with a lack of vision to see what this country can achieve on it's own?

Of course there is an emotional tie, but by no means is that a deciding factor.

The fact of the matter is guys, whether you believe it or like it, we have the ability to go it alone. We have the set up to go it alone.

You seem to find it hard to comprehend that we have no say in uk elections but it's a fact. Now I understand a democracy, I do.

However, if you were ready to go independent, and were constantly undermined and lied to - I can pull up serious proof to back that up - and most of all were out voted most of the time, would you not think lets do this?

We have the resources to go it alone so why not

Really? And what would you do if Orkney and Shetland secede and take the oil with them?


Well the thing is what we want to do with the oil money is put in aside for a rainy day like Norway? I could be wrong on that.

Now I know it may seem like we have a chip on our shoulders etcs but I must stress I personally do not. I have no issue being British, contrary I'm proud to be so, just as much as I am proud to be Scottish.

We currently run on the taxes already set, discounting the oil money. We can continue to do so and put money into a fund, from the oil sales as is proposed
When most economist says Salmond is wrong im more entitled to listen them than a slimy politician little scotlander
He doesn't even have a plan for a currency 6 months of the vote, well he did until he was laughed off by everyone. All I can say is good luck if the vote is yes because the plan is fatally flawed.
Im not saying it couldn't work some way it just doesn't work Salmonds way
 
All joking aside, there are plenty of English folk mocking those in the "independence" camp so can I ask those people why you would want Scotland to stay as part of the Union?
 
BoyBlue_1985 said:
sd92 said:
smudgedj said:
Really? And what would you do if Orkney and Shetland secede and take the oil with them?


Well the thing is what we want to do with the oil money is put in aside for a rainy day like Norway? I could be wrong on that.

Now I know it may seem like we have a chip on our shoulders etcs but I must stress I personally do not. I have no issue being British, contrary I'm proud to be so, just as much as I am proud to be Scottish.

We currently run on the taxes already set, discounting the oil money. We can continue to do so and put money into a fund, from the oil sales as is proposed
When most economist says Salmond is wrong im more entitled to listen them than a slimy politician little scotlander
He doesn't even have a plan for a currency 6 months of the vote, well he did until he was laughed off by everyone. All I can say is good luck if the vote is yes because the plan is fatally flawed.
Im not saying it couldn't work some way it just doesn't work Salmonds way

they have the backing of financial experts that have told them their plans will work...
 

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