Scottish flags at COMS...

[bkplayer1]

Why?

I saw a few today, which I had not noticed before...

We have no Scottish players in the first team, and thus have little or no reason to have any association with Scotland, so why are these bigots trying to associate themselves with our religion-free club?

They tried their best to tag along when we played Celtic in a pre season friendly at Celtic Park.

Why do these people try and associate themselves with us?

The sectarian nonsense that they bring is a crippling disease which we need to steer clear of. And pardon my ignorance, but I thought the Scottish hated the English, well that's certainly the general consensus isn't it?

We are a religion-free club, and always have been. Please take your disease elsewhere.








EDIT:

Just one look at all these responses and it's not hard to tell that I've been misinterpreted.

First of all, the "crippling disease" comment was referring to the religious and parochial nonsense that was displayed when we played at Celtic Park, not Scottish men or women, how anyone could think that is what I meant is beyond me...

I accept that making the link between a few Scottish flags and religious bigots was wrong, and well slightly naive. And for this I am sorry. I also know that we have Scottish fans, and for some bizarre reason the majority of people who have replied on this thread seem to think I hate the Scottish and don't want them anywhere near our football club.

You couldn't be more wrong, or ignorant. A large proportion of my family lives in Scotland, I have friends who are Scottish, friends that I have taken to COMS in the days of Kevin Keegan. I have no problem with us having Scottish fans, why would I? If I did I would have to go and find another club to support! The connection I was making was to the affect waterfootblues has done below...

I was at the Celtic match and when I got in the atmoshere between the two sets of fans was friendly and there was good banter between the fans. Now I am a Manc who lives in Glasgow and my wife is a Glaswegian.

Three guys turned up and unfurled the Glasgow Man City Saltire. I thought this was amazing and joined in with them holding the flag. It soon became apparrent though that these guys had an agenda and it was more to do with hatred towards the Celtic, Catholics and the Irish and some of the sectarian abuse they were singing and trying to get others to join in with was a disgrace.

I loved the Glasgow Man City flag but not the biggots who own that flag. They are a cancer in Scottish football and their extreme views are not welcome at our fantastic football club.

My only team is Man City and I dont bother with Celtic or Rangers and I have no agenda.

The more flags at COMS the better, just leave all the sectarian behaviour behind.

I have made contact with a few blues while I have been up here and some of them are trying to get a Man City supporters club up and running (no supporters club in Glasgow) to cover the West Coast.

That is the point I was attemting to make, although clearly I failed, and my point became more about the Scottish than religious sectarianism, which wasn't intended.

My original post was referring to the sectarianism that a small minority of Scottish fans bring, as they usually support either Rangers or Celtic aswell as an English side, and some of them want the whole world to know this, which I don't agree with as it creates divisions among fans.

My original post was aimed at the people who have an agenda, not Scottish fans in general, an example I made was the bigots who tagged along when we played Celtic.

Why was this conveniently avoided by everyone who attacked me?

It was a valid point and it did infact happen. An event I used as an example which was conveniently dismissed by all but one poster.

Why did everyone seek to personally attack me when they know absolutely nothing about me, my beliefs, my faith, or my character?

I am sorry that I have offended some posters, that was not my intention, I hope this post has cleared a few things up.

If you remain offended despite everything I have just said, then you are probably one of the people who dragged the name of Manchester City through the mud at Celtic Park, and thus I have no sympathy for you, and still wish you would take your crippling disease elsewhere.

st marks, aka ardwick, aka manchester city football club.

 

[Balti]

I'm sure a few St George flags would be appreciated at footy games North of the border

;-)

 

[bluemanc]

The thread shouldn't exist in the 1st place & the "shamed us at Parkhead"bit is well over the top.

I can only presume you haven't experienced the delights of grown men singing 'we're up to our knees in Fenian blood' with that wild look of hatred in their eyes. The sort of thing one or two posters on here who have seen it before have quickly denounced, as do I.

It ain't pleasant.

But to restate an earlier message, this is not meant to imply or suggest those who brought the Scottish flags to COMS yesterday were guilty of this, because I'm sure they weren't. Just in case anyone wants to fling that grenade in my direction.

It's about flags with City on them,FFS.
You are trying to turm this into some sort of Anti-Sectarian crusade.

I can only presume you haven't experienced the delights of grown men singing 'we're up to our knees in Fenian blood' with that wild look of hatred in their eyes.

Dear o fuckin dear.

 

[*singingtheblues*]

The big reason for the Irish flag is because of Stevie. Didnt see any tricolours before this for a while but I have seen an NI flag with a Rangers logo on it which confused me..

That is exactly what we don't want to see at COMS, there are no mitigating circumstances, no ifs or buts.

Any flag with another clubs emblem embossed across it doesn't belong at COMS (unless of course it was in the away end!), could you imagine seeing an Arsenal flag proudly adjourning the North Stand?!

Anyone who brings a N I flag with a Rangers emblem embossed across the front, to any football ground other than Ibrox is only attempting to achieve one thing.

Now I know this is a sensitive subject, yet how can all but a handful of posters ignore the real issue of debate here?

It isn't on, they are the sort of incidents I was originally attempting to highlight and discuss. I accept that I didn't make myself very clear, however now that has been cleared up can we discuss the real issue here?

The whole Scottish debate was wrong and wasn't what was intended to be discussed, all it did was conceal the real issue.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

As a Scot and a City fan it's disgusting to see any City fan getting involved in sectarianism. Why the feck would they want to? It's vile, pointless and it's the sort of thing which drives your every day genuine football fan like myself away from the SPL and towards the EPL with City. It's dissappointing to see City fans associating themselves with Rangers or Celtic purely for Sectarian reasons and not for footballing reasons as it should be.

By the way - Kilmarnock are my Scottish club. Only 20 miles from Glasgow so it would have been easy for me to support either of the Old Firm but just like City fans (in general), i'm not a glory hunting twat.

 

[*singingtheblues*]

As a Scot and a City fan it's disgusting to see any City fan getting involved in sectarianism. Why the feck would they want to? It's vile, pointless and it's the sort of thing which drives your every day genuine football fan like myself away from the SPL and towards the EPL with City. It's dissappointing to see City fans associating themselves with Rangers or Celtic purely for Sectarian reasons and not for footballing reasons as it should be.

By the way - Kilmarnock are my Scottish club. Only 20 miles from Glasgow so it would have been easy for me to support either of the Old Firm but just like City fans (in general), i'm not a glory hunting twat.

That was my point though... trying as hard as I may not to offend people... I don't believe the people who do attempt to associate themselves with the Old Firm are actually Mancunian blues.

They are the ones who generally come from outside Manchester.

Once more I am not tarnishing everyone with the same brush, however a small minority of those fans do align themselves with the sectarian plague.

Everyone else is more than welcome in these promising times at City, I just hope we remain "neutral" as it were.

 

[NPBlue]

Yeah, I saw the flag and thought nothing of it.

They are City fans, which is fine by me.

 

[*singingtheblues*]

Also might I add "ayrshire_blue", you are the sort of fan I would like to point out for being a credit to our club, the travelling you put in to get to and from games puts us local blues to shame, and I'm glad to hear you're equally disgusted by what is a rare occurance at our club.

I can only thank you that you are one of the more reasonable people who have posted on this thread!

 

[blue jim]

As a Scot and a City fan it's disgusting to see any City fan getting involved in sectarianism. Why the feck would they want to? It's vile, pointless and it's the sort of thing which drives your every day genuine football fan like myself away from the SPL and towards the EPL with City. It's dissappointing to see City fans associating themselves with Rangers or Celtic purely for Sectarian reasons and not for footballing reasons as it should be.

By the way - Kilmarnock are my Scottish club. Only 20 miles from Glasgow so it would have been easy for me to support either of the Old Firm but just like City fans (in general), i'm not a glory hunting twat.

That was my point though... trying as hard as I may not to offend people... I don't believe the people who do attempt to associate themselves with the Old Firm are actually Mancunian blues.

They are the ones who generally come from outside Manchester.

Once more I am not tarnishing everyone with the same brush, however a small minority of those fans do align themselves with the sectarian plague.

Everyone else is more than welcome in these promising times at City, I just hope we remain "neutral" as it were.

I "align" myself with Celtic because I've been supporting Celtic since I was no age, long before I've been supporting City which happened when I moved here a couple of years ago. I've no time for secterianism in the old firm I grew up with enough of that shite.

Anyone who brings another club emblem to eastlands should remove it, I dont even wear my wee celtic european cup badge on my jacket when I go see City, theres no need to show it at a match that has fuck all to do with the team.

 

[waterfootblues]

I have supported CITY since I was a very young lad, not because of any Scottish connection at the time but because of Bell, Summerbee and Lee although we've had a lot of Scots at the club (some utter pish) over the years. I know a lot of City fans up here with not a hint of bigotry or anti Englishness about them.
I am not a religious bigot just because I am Scottish and having attended the pre season game at Celtic we were appalled when a few bigoted morons attempted to hi-jack the occasion with their vile filth. The same would've happened had the match been played at Rangers. In fact this happens whenever a high profile team plays one or other of the bigot brothers. The bigotry runs much deeper between these two than I could ever and would ever want to explain. Also over the years when Celtic had a connection with Liverpool, Rangers latched onto Everton. Rangers-Chelsea, Celtic-Arsenal, Celtic-Rags, Rangers-City. Do you get the picture?
On a lighter note, I pray that one day I will go to a major cup final in my City shirt and kilt, proudly unfurl my saltire along side my fellow blues flags from around the world, and celebrate a trophy win. I have been to Maine Road and now CoMS many times and met and made great friends. So please don't tar us all with the same brush.

This is spot on, bring the flags but leave the agenda behind. The more flags the better.