jimharri
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100%. It's 40 years since a non old firm side won the title up there (funnily enough, Aberdeen).
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Of course it was better back then. It's pretty much a closed shop now. Celtic (15) and Rangers (5) of the last 20. Great for Celtic fans, obviously. And, to a lesser degree, Rangers fans. But for everyone else? Hmm.
Doesn’t tell the full story
Aberdeen 1983 ECWC winners
Aberdeen European Super Cup winners ( glorified friendly) ; )
1984 Dundee United robbed in European Cup Semi when Roma bribed Referee!!
1987 Dundee United UEFA cup finalists
Celtic also early 80s knocked out European Cup Latter stages by Real Madrid
Also add in a very strong Hearts team mid to late 80s where they were very unfortunate not to win league in 1986.
Was great to see Pittodrie full for United game and a reminder that a successful Aberdeen will be supported and they’ve always had a great travelling support
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You've referenced a bunch of knockout games there. If you check back, we were talking about the league. Anyone can get lucky in a cup competition (we know that from 2013). The league is the true indicator of a team's quality.
League of shame: Scotland's smelliest top-flight football stadiums revealed
Ibrox Stadium, the storied home of Rangers FC, has gained an unwanted title and rather unflattering reputation: the worst-smelling stadium in the Scottish Premiership.
www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com
Lol.
I was referencing Scottish clubs relative success in European football.
I smell shite…..League of shame: Scotland's smelliest top-flight football stadiums revealed
Ibrox Stadium, the storied home of Rangers FC, has gained an unwanted title and rather unflattering reputation: the worst-smelling stadium in the Scottish Premiership.
Lol.
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We weren't. We were talking about the league title. Go back and check, if you don't believe me.
I was actually replying to Madchesters post about Scottish football being better in the 1980s.
Go back and check if you don’t believe me
The spread of title winners was down to strength in depth in the league over a period of time.
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Which I pretty much agree with. Whatever about better, it was certainly more competitive. But the conversation was triggered by my comment about it being as well to give the trophy to Celtic now. You're unlikely to reel them back in (too inconsistent). I'd love to see Aberdeen pull it off; it's tedious watching one of the old firm winning it for decades now. I just don't think they'll last the pace. And say they happen to be top in March; will they be mentally able to handle that? I'm not sure they could, not having been in such a position since I had teeth and hair.
Aberdeen fans will be loving life right now but I’m afraid we’ve seen this before. Hearts , under George Burley I think, were flying a few years back but once the injuries / suspensions kick in their lack of strength in depth is exposed.
We need more money into our game and at the moment the best bet is through European success. Hopefully Hearts will benefit through this seasons run.
Aberdeens run comes to an abrupt halt tomorrow!! : )))))))))
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I’d say the league has been ruined as a spectacle by the domestic success of two teams personally, that’s been over 30 years
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There is zero (ZERO) chance Aberdeen win the league, suspect we’ll get beat tomorrow night as you say. I’ll be going tomorrow and i’m sure the players will give their all, as will our fans, but I’ll repeat again Zero chance Aberdeen win the league.
Would an Aberdeen league win make the league better, I’d say definitely yes but the truth is it’d be a freak one off as the ugly sisters are financially much more superior and will go on to win the next 30 leagues between them. Scottish football is broken, personally I’d introduce a wage cap, squad cost cap and increase the league to 20 teams.
To make Scottish football a better spectacle and competitive again, it would mean having a more similar playing field, if that means short term pain for Celtic and Rangers for the benefit of the rest of the teams, so be it.
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Nearer to 40 than 30.
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That’s only a narrative in England. Scotland seems to be OK with a one club league where the top team outspends everyone else
Two teams haven’t held the Spanish clubs
One team hasn’t held back the French clubs
One team hasn’t held back the German clubs
And so on and so on
Nearly all the top leagues in Europe are dominated by the same clubs year after year. It’s just lazy blaming Rangers and Celtic for other clubs woes. Ffs we had an ICT fan blaming Rangers for their troubles!! The vast majority of their support are Rangers fans without the bus fare!
Anyway there are small signs that the gap maybe closing and that can only be good for the game in Scotland as a whole.
It also has to be remembered that it was Stewart Milne that voted with Celtic in 2012 to keep the 10/2 voting system. A short sighted vote that has stopped the prize money being dished out in a more equitable manner.
Old firm managers , players , supporters have a cheek bemoaning the lack of competition while they take so much money out the game in Scotland. You want competition then look to change the way TV / Prize money is shared
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Think Aberdeen might pay for that penalty miss, well on top but BeTon (hun with a whistle) has a say in this yet!
