Scottish independence

[MCFCTrick]

Those voting 'Yes' ..... just remember .... the Yanks no you have oil .... and once you aren't part of our 'pact' .... ;-)

 

[Metal Biker]

Cant agree with giving 16year olds the vote at all, I know when I was that age me and my mates were definitely not in the position to make such an important decision.

A masterstroke by Salmond

Sorry, but you need to understand that Scotland is a very, very different country. Two sixteen-year olds can legally marry in Scotland, so it makes no sense at all that they cannot vote.

Erm, sixteen year olds can marry in England and Wales as well, so what's your point?

 

[Len Rum]

Cant agree with giving 16year olds the vote at all, I know when I was that age me and my mates were definitely not in the position to make such an important decision.

A masterstroke by Salmond

Sorry, but you need to understand that Scotland is a very, very different country. Two sixteen-year olds can legally marry in Scotland, so it makes no sense at all that they cannot vote.

Erm, sixteen year olds can marry in England and Wales as well, so what's your point?

He may be referring to the fact that between the ages of 16-18 in Scotland you don't need parental consent to marry whereas in England and Wales you do.

 

[Metal Biker]

Sorry, but you need to understand that Scotland is a very, very different country. Two sixteen-year olds can legally marry in Scotland, so it makes no sense at all that they cannot vote.

Erm, sixteen year olds can marry in England and Wales as well, so what's your point?

He may be referring to the fact that between the ages of 16-18 in Scotland you don't need parental consent to marry whereas in England and Wales you do.

And that's enough of a justification to allow 16 year olds to determine the fate of future generations of an entire nation?

 

[Dubai Blue]

Sorry, but you need to understand that Scotland is a very, very different country. Two sixteen-year olds can legally marry in Scotland, so it makes no sense at all that they cannot vote.

Erm, sixteen year olds can marry in England and Wales as well, so what's your point?

He may be referring to the fact that between the ages of 16-18 in Scotland you don't need parental consent to marry whereas in England and Wales you do.

Even so, it hardly marks Scotland out as a "very, very different country".

 

[yerwot?]

the anti-Scottish tone of the posters on BM who insist that a yes vote will mean disaster for Scotland and England is puzzling. The mention of the Labour party taking a big hit is greeted with a resounding meh, yet it is the only certain outcome of a yes vote, so unless the tory supporters are acting in a very noble manner and putting self-interest behind a genuine concern for the people of Scotland ( ha ha) , what is their real beef? There isn't a tory party in Scotland ffs. If Scotland is a burden, as is claimed, then getting rid must be a ''good thing'' right. Weakening Labour
must be a good thing, right? What is so fearsome that Cameron ''pleads'' for a no vote, promises to make up for
the years of neglect, extra powers for Scottish Parliament and all manner of bribes. It may be ego-driven or fear of the old tin tack in his case, but that certainly does not apply to the rank and file on BM.
What is the real reason that so provokes tory supporters to such apoplectic rage? And why is it not their battle-cry, instead of meaningless shite like ''Better together''

 

[SWP's back]

Let them go, they will soon come running back.

They need us than we need them.

Jesus Christ.

You'll be able to join the expat club.

It's a good club.

 

[Metal Biker]

the anti-Scottish tone of the posters on BM who insist that a yes vote will mean disaster for Scotland and England is puzzling. The mention of the Labour party taking a big hit is greeted with a resounding meh, yet it is the only certain outcome of a yes vote, so unless the tory supporters are acting in a very noble manner and putting self-interest behind a genuine concern for the people of Scotland ( ha ha) , what is their real beef? There isn't a tory party in Scotland ffs. If Scotland is a burden, as is claimed, then getting rid must be a ''good thing'' right. Weakening Labour
must be a good thing, right? What is so fearsome that Cameron ''pleads'' for a no vote, promises to make up for
the years of neglect, extra powers for Scottish Parliament and all manner of bribes. It may be ego-driven or fear of the old tin tack in his case, but that certainly does not apply to the rank and file on BM.
What is the real reason that so provokes tory supporters to such apoplectic rage? And why is it not their battle-cry, instead of meaningless shite like ''Better together''

Ahh so you can only be a Tory voter to be against the break up of the Union.

I have a more modest suggestion as to why i'm against it...

 

[Shands]

Just been to cast my vote. Never been to a polling day with so much activity and buzz around it, it's interesting I'll give it that.

 

[M18CTID]

the anti-Scottish tone of the posters on BM who insist that a yes vote will mean disaster for Scotland and England is puzzling. The mention of the Labour party taking a big hit is greeted with a resounding meh, yet it is the only certain outcome of a yes vote, so unless the tory supporters are acting in a very noble manner and putting self-interest behind a genuine concern for the people of Scotland ( ha ha) , what is their real beef? There isn't a tory party in Scotland ffs. If Scotland is a burden, as is claimed, then getting rid must be a ''good thing'' right. Weakening Labour
must be a good thing, right? What is so fearsome that Cameron ''pleads'' for a no vote, promises to make up for
the years of neglect, extra powers for Scottish Parliament and all manner of bribes. It may be ego-driven or fear of the old tin tack in his case, but that certainly does not apply to the rank and file on BM.
What is the real reason that so provokes tory supporters to such apoplectic rage? And why is it not their battle-cry, instead of meaningless shite like ''Better together''

That's funny, because I could've sworn that people of all political persuasions have been posting on here that they think a Yes vote could be bad for Scotland. It's not just limited to Conservative voters - fuck me, even Rascal who is as anti-Tory as you can get reckons it would be a wrong move.

As for the "anti-Scottish tone", behave ffs. Most of it is just light-hearted banter being taken far too seriously you porridge-gobbling twat ;) Seriously, what's way more disturbing are the reports of some Yes campaigners resorting to intimidatory tactics against the No voters and coming up with totally bullshit claims that anyone voting No isn't as patriotic as someone voting Yes.

 

[Blue Smarties]

I can see it installing a bit of national pride back into England, which we've lacked over the past few years. Well, at least for when we play those Ginger bastards anyway.

 

[Mike N]

Just been to cast my vote. Never been to a polling day with so much activity and buzz around it, it's interesting I'll give it that.

Which way did you vote mate?

 

[aka blue jambo]

voted first thing ... there was a queue !!! never ever seen that before ..
quite exciting actually :-)

 

[Matty]

Just been to cast my vote. Never been to a polling day with so much activity and buzz around it, it's interesting I'll give it that.

Which way did you vote mate?

The normal way I'd guess, put a cross in the relevant section on a piece of paper, then posted it into a ballot box.

 

[Mike N]

Just been to cast my vote. Never been to a polling day with so much activity and buzz around it, it's interesting I'll give it that.

Which way did you vote mate?

The normal way I'd guess, put a cross in the relevant section on a piece of paper, then posted it into a ballot box.

Cheers!

 

[Shands]

Just been to cast my vote. Never been to a polling day with so much activity and buzz around it, it's interesting I'll give it that.

Which way did you vote mate?

I voted no. I'm not entrenched in either camp, but in the end while I could see a lot of merit in some of the ideology of the 'Yes' campaign, I'm just not convinced putting those ideas into practice is workable as things stand. I think it depends too much on good will and co-operation from others that wouldn't be forthcoming. What will be will be though, just sit and wait for the outcome.

 

[Len Rum]

the anti-Scottish tone of the posters on BM who insist that a yes vote will mean disaster for Scotland and England is puzzling. The mention of the Labour party taking a big hit is greeted with a resounding meh, yet it is the only certain outcome of a yes vote, so unless the tory supporters are acting in a very noble manner and putting self-interest behind a genuine concern for the people of Scotland ( ha ha) , what is their real beef? There isn't a tory party in Scotland ffs. If Scotland is a burden, as is claimed, then getting rid must be a ''good thing'' right. Weakening Labour
must be a good thing, right? What is so fearsome that Cameron ''pleads'' for a no vote, promises to make up for
the years of neglect, extra powers for Scottish Parliament and all manner of bribes. It may be ego-driven or fear of the old tin tack in his case, but that certainly does not apply to the rank and file on BM.
What is the real reason that so provokes tory supporters to such apoplectic rage? And why is it not their battle-cry, instead of meaningless shite like ''Better together''

I'm sure a lot of Tories want a "Yes" vote for the reasons you mention, although those in prominent positions dare not voice it.
However there will be many Tories who genuinely want the union preserved for nationalistic reasons. In particular they don't want to go down in history as the party that broke up the three hundred year old union and made the UK smaller.

 

[Questy]

Spot on.

Will be glad to see the back of 16 and 17 year olds waving a saltire emblazoned with yes shouting how the Tories have ruined their lives for the past 8 years.

I'm no Tory but Salmond has appealed to a vote that doesn't have a clue politically and are wanting to be seen as patriotic.

Sad because the fall out up here will not be nice imo.

100% Agree. I have Nieces and Nephews who would not know the 1st thing about politics and yet are backing the Yes campaign, taken in with all the bravado and no matter what others may say it has, IMO, become a Scotland v England and Tories rally. It has become very very vitriolic and I can see many a broken home when tomorrow comes, please let sense prevail and bring the majority with NO.

]Don't you feel the SNP have tried to paint a picture of Scotland being a nation of down-trodden clansmen being run roughshod by the English nobility (ie the Tories)? I have half-expected Salmond to turn up with half his face painted saltire blue .

100%, Hes whipped it up into a frenzy, infact over the last week I have seen and heard many references towards Womens rights and how they have as good as been shat on, basically anything that can grab hold of "Group" votes, he has played his hands well as opposed Darling who has been shambolic, however I honestly feel sense will prevail .

 

[stony]

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I wonder which way he's voted

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Vote done.

Freeeeeeeeeedddooooooooommmmmmmmm =)