Scottish independence

[Ducado]

It'll be a comfortable no vote in my opinion. Won't be anywhere near as close as the media is making out.

I am with you on this, I can't see them going for it maybe the young people will be taken in by all the talk of Caledonia Utopia but older people will have heard it all before

 

[Ban-jani]

Independence is looking increasingly unlikely now after these choreographed scare stories from big employers.

They are not made up scare stories they are real concerns and just because some Scots might actually vote with their heads instead of their William Wallace hearts doesn't mean you can just say they have been scared off by choreographed stories. Businesses are looking to move to England, investors are looking at pulling out investment these aren't stories made up to scare the Scottish and keep them in check they are the realities of independence. And those who can actually see past the nationalistic bullshit have every right to question if independence really is the best course of action to take. Even the Loch Ness Monster has relocated to Lake Windermere he's not daft.

Any Scot who votes no is a shit house in fairness, putting personal wealth over the chance to create a country which can determine it's own future for generations to come is selfish in the extreme

What are you talking about?

Are you posting that drivel just to wind people up?

 

[i kne albert davy]

Independence is looking increasingly unlikely now after these choreographed scare stories from big employers.

They are not made up scare stories they are real concerns and just because some Scots might actually vote with their heads instead of their William Wallace hearts doesn't mean you can just say they have been scared off by choreographed stories. Businesses are looking to move to England, investors are looking at pulling out investment these aren't stories made up to scare the Scottish and keep them in check they are the realities of independence. And those who can actually see past the nationalistic bullshit have every right to question if independence really is the best course of action to take. Even the Loch Ness Monster has relocated to Lake Windermere he's not daft.

Any Scot who votes no is a shit house in fairness, putting personal wealth over the chance to create a country which can determine it's own future for generations to come is selfish in the extreme

Or they could just think the future for their children would be better if they voted to keep Scotland as part of the United Kingdom.

 

[smudgedj]

Independence is looking increasingly unlikely now after these choreographed scare stories from big employers.

Big companies do not like the uncertainty over Scotland's future tax and regulation - they will go.

 

[hilts]

They are not made up scare stories they are real concerns and just because some Scots might actually vote with their heads instead of their William Wallace hearts doesn't mean you can just say they have been scared off by choreographed stories. Businesses are looking to move to England, investors are looking at pulling out investment these aren't stories made up to scare the Scottish and keep them in check they are the realities of independence. And those who can actually see past the nationalistic bullshit have every right to question if independence really is the best course of action to take. Even the Loch Ness Monster has relocated to Lake Windermere he's not daft.

Any Scot who votes no is a shit house in fairness, putting personal wealth over the chance to create a country which can determine it's own future for generations to come is selfish in the extreme

What are you talking about?

Are you posting that drivel just to wind people up?

Not at all, the question should be what sort of country do the Scottish want, if they want complete control of their own destiny they should vote yes, how it affects them economically shouldn't be a consideration, it was never going to be plain sailing if they voted yes, so what if certain companies fuck off to england, they will have it in their power to create a country how they see fit, sometimes a principle is worth the initial struggle, everything comes down to economics these days

 

[Ban-jani]

Any Scot who votes no is a shit house in fairness, putting personal wealth over the chance to create a country which can determine it's own future for generations to come is selfish in the extreme

What are you talking about?

Are you posting that drivel just to wind people up?

Not at all, the question should be what sort of country do the Scottish want, if they want complete control of their own destiny they should vote yes, how it affects them economically shouldn't be a consideration, it was never going to be plain sailing if they voted yes, so what if certain companies fuck off to england, they will have it in their power to create a country how they see fit, sometimes a principle is worth the initial struggle, everything comes down to economics these days

And those who see staying with the union because they see it as better for their country are "shithouses"?

I see the yes voters as emotional and the no voters as logical to be honest.
They don't even have a currency decided.

 

[hilts]

What are you talking about?

Are you posting that drivel just to wind people up?

Not at all, the question should be what sort of country do the Scottish want, if they want complete control of their own destiny they should vote yes, how it affects them economically shouldn't be a consideration, it was never going to be plain sailing if they voted yes, so what if certain companies fuck off to england, they will have it in their power to create a country how they see fit, sometimes a principle is worth the initial struggle, everything comes down to economics these days

And those who see staying with the union because they see it as better for their country are "shithouses"?

I see the yes voters as emotional and the no voters as logical to be honest.
They don't even have a currency decided.

smalltime thinking

 

[Ban-jani]

Not at all, the question should be what sort of country do the Scottish want, if they want complete control of their own destiny they should vote yes, how it affects them economically shouldn't be a consideration, it was never going to be plain sailing if they voted yes, so what if certain companies fuck off to england, they will have it in their power to create a country how they see fit, sometimes a principle is worth the initial struggle, everything comes down to economics these days

And those who see staying with the union because they see it as better for their country are "shithouses"?

I see the yes voters as emotional and the no voters as logical to be honest.
They don't even have a currency decided.

smalltime thinking

Quite the contrary.

 

[hilts]

And those who see staying with the union because they see it as better for their country are "shithouses"?

I see the yes voters as emotional and the no voters as logical to be honest.
They don't even have a currency decided.

smalltime thinking

Quite the contrary.

In 5.10 or 50 years time will currency or where RBS put their head office be even relevant? no, keeping the status quo because the immediate future may cause problems is the definition of shitting out, Scotland is far more left leaning than England and just accepting they will be an insignificant fish in a larger pool is pretty cowardly

 

[Metal Biker]

Any Scottish citizen who votes No is anti-Scottish?

Is that the argument the Yes Campaign has put forward?

Is it really that inconceivable to suggest that the No voters are ardent and patriotic, are against the dominance of London and Westminster, would love for Scotland to be better governed and by the Scottish themselves but understand that independence from the rest of the United Kingdom is NOT the way to go about securing that future but a call for change to make things fairer is?

This hasn't been a debate in some cases, it's intimidation by a petrified Yes Campaign to have patriotic Scots question whether loyalty to their country can only be demonstrated by saying yes to independence.