Scottish independence

Re: Scottish Referendum great news for European away games.

St. Johnstone would be nice, I was in Perth last summer for the races. Lovely place.

Problem is unless we have a major combust or as the rags suggest Mansour gets board there's mo chance as they'll never be in the same draw as us. In fact its touch and go if Celtic would be a draw option in the next few years.
 
malg said:
TGR said:
If anyone wishes to confirm the turkeys are voting for christmas theory then they should read the article by David Smith (Chief Economics Editor)
in today's Sunday Times (page 4 of the News section).
If they vote for a 'Yes' (and I genuinely hope they do) then from an economic viewpoint the country is busted flush from day 1.
Significant reduced public spending (no more 'free everything') and higher taxes are 100% guaranteed.
The turkeys are coming home to roost.
And not before time.
Bring it on!
Do you believe that article is an unbiased view? Just remember that Murdoch will have his hands all over this, and he has been known to stick his nose into political affairs!

You really do spout some nonsense.
David Smith is one of the most respected and acclaimed experts on encomics in the whole of Europe.
However - a Bluemoon poster knows better?
<shakes head and slowly walks away>
 
ayrshire_blue said:
The establishment are getting more and more desperate by the day.

Plans for "more power" for Holyrood to commence "immediately" on the result of a no vote to be published tomorrow and Tuesday.

Funny we're just going to see these plans now. When hundreds of thousands of people have already voted via post.

Desperate I say.

The plan is coming together...
 
TGR said:
malg said:
TGR said:
If anyone wishes to confirm the turkeys are voting for christmas theory then they should read the article by David Smith (Chief Economics Editor)
in today's Sunday Times (page 4 of the News section).
If they vote for a 'Yes' (and I genuinely hope they do) then from an economic viewpoint the country is busted flush from day 1.
Significant reduced public spending (no more 'free everything') and higher taxes are 100% guaranteed.
The turkeys are coming home to roost.
And not before time.
Bring it on!
Do you believe that article is an unbiased view? Just remember that Murdoch will have his hands all over this, and he has been known to stick his nose into political affairs!

You really do spout some nonsense.
David Smith is one of the most respected and acclaimed experts on encomics in the whole of Europe.
However - a Bluemoon poster knows better?
<shakes head and slowly walks away>
Behave yourself. He may be an expert, but he's posting in a Murdoch run newspaper, and if you seriously believe it is unbiased, then you're fucking deluded.

As for spouting nonsense, well looking at your two posts above I'd say you're top of the tree yourself. You've obviously had some run in with a jock that has clouded your judgement, or you're upset by Sun reports that everyone in Scotland doesn't want England to win at football!
 
Just watching the Germany - Scotland match right now... if they did go Independent I'd harvest a guess their National team would be far superior to Englands, giving it a few years.... Measures such as National Service? in place would benefit sport participation.

Think they are daft if they stay with Westminster.
 
I'm shocked by the 'better together' and the Labour Party's attitude. From what I've seen/read it's very confrontational, talking about borders and trying to frighten them into voting 'no' rather than leaving it up to them and trying to work together no matter what because, like it or not, that's what they'll have to do

If I was Scottish, given the way the 'no' supporters have behaved, I'd be tempted to vote 'yes' just to put two fingers up to the establishment and be even more determined to make an independent Scotland work
 
Blue Hefner said:
I'm shocked by the 'better together' and the Labour Party's attitude. From what I've seen/read it's very confrontational, talking about borders and trying to frighten them into voting 'no' rather than leaving it up to them and trying to work together no matter what because, like it or not, that's what they'll have to do

If I was Scottish, given the way the 'no' supporters have behaved, I'd be tempted to vote 'yes' just to put two fingers up to the establishment and be even more determined to make an independent Scotland work

It's been shambolic, disorganised, and overly reliant on 'celebrity/political endorsements, while the 'Yes' campaign has cleverly built from the bottom and created a stronger and broader consensus. Eleven days to go and the Westminster politicians are only now returning from their long holiday, with news of a large pay increase, before they have a recess for the conference season. Against this background, it is little wonder the 'Better Together' campaign is so devoid of leadership and drive.

If the Scots do return a 'Yes' vote, historians will surely marvel at the sheer complacency and arrogance displayed by Westminster. They might conclude, however, that this was merely emblematic of what drove the Scots to dissolve the Union in the first place.
 
Gabriel said:
Blue Hefner said:
I'm shocked by the 'better together' and the Labour Party's attitude. From what I've seen/read it's very confrontational, talking about borders and trying to frighten them into voting 'no' rather than leaving it up to them and trying to work together no matter what because, like it or not, that's what they'll have to do

If I was Scottish, given the way the 'no' supporters have behaved, I'd be tempted to vote 'yes' just to put two fingers up to the establishment and be even more determined to make an independent Scotland work

It's been shambolic, disorganised, and overly reliant on 'celebrity/political endorsements, while the 'Yes' campaign has cleverly built from the bottom and created a stronger and broader consensus. Eleven days to go and the Westminster politicians are only now returning from their long holiday, with news of a large pay increase, before they have a recess for the conference season. Against this background, it is little wonder the 'Better Together' campaign is so devoid of leadership and drive.

If the Scots do return a 'Yes' vote, historians will surely marvel at the sheer complacency and arrogance displayed by Westminster. They might conclude, however, that this was merely emblematic of what drove the Scots to dissolve the Union in the first place.

Well said.
 
malg said:
TGR said:
malg said:
Do you believe that article is an unbiased view? Just remember that Murdoch will have his hands all over this, and he has been known to stick his nose into political affairs!

You really do spout some nonsense.
David Smith is one of the most respected and acclaimed experts on encomics in the whole of Europe.
However - a Bluemoon poster knows better?
<shakes head and slowly walks away>
Behave yourself. He may be an expert, but he's posting in a Murdoch run newspaper, and if you seriously believe it is unbiased, then you're fucking deluded.

As for spouting nonsense, well looking at your two posts above I'd say you're top of the tree yourself. You've obviously had some run in with a jock that has clouded your judgement, or you're upset by Sun reports that everyone in Scotland doesn't want England to win at football!

<shakes head and slowly walks away>
 
If they do vote yes which currency will they use? Can't use the GBP and it doesn't look like Europe will have them so no euro
 
forevermancity said:
If they do vote yes which currency will they use? Can't use the GBP and it doesn't look like Europe will have them so no euro

They will use the GBP but have no control on interest rates or any lender of last resort so if things go tits up they are in serious trouble. I lot of them really have no idea just what they are voting for. It is turkey's voting for Christmas.
Salmond has done a great job of whipping them up into a nationalistic frenzy. However with Salmond it is all about ideology and ideologists do not not have any care or concern for the consequences that a 'Yes' vote will entail.
A country gets the government it deserves...
 
If they vote 'yes' when do they actually become independent? How long is the transition period to sort things out?
 

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