cibaman said:
Salmond has wanted to use the euro all along. its unfortunate for him that the referendum coincided with the period when it is particularly unfashionable to speak favourably about the Euro. And, of course, he can no more guarantee that Scotland can use the euro than they can the pound.
But using the euro would be the best option for Scotland by a million miles.
Don't understand any of this mate. The country would use the pound, not the Euro.
On the subject that it wouldn't be accepted by England and Westminster I find that very difficult to believe. Of course they're not about to negotiate Scotland's interdependence from the UK so the only ammo they have available to them at the current time is to say that "they may not get to use the pound as this would have to be agreed".
Not agreeing it would damage England and rUK as much as Scotland. Giving the trade and business relations between the two countries, Westminster not allowing Scotland to use the pound would be cutting off their nose to spite their face.
I'm not a Salmond fan. I'm not an SNP fan. But I'm with him on the currency issue. It will be the pound, and there's no need for a plan B. A plan B will be ready in any case, but it won't be required. If it is, the rUK would be getting shafted along with Scotland.
In any case, sadly I find it almost a certainty to be a No vote. I'm not saying it's the case for everyone, as everyone has their own reasons which are as valid as mine or anyone else's, but we live in a nation of shithouses brainwashed into thinking we're not good enough, too small and too stupid, when it's not the case at all. It won't be easy, but having a say over our own future's will be worth it.
The way things are going, food banks all around us while the rich continue to get richer, it's not right. I can't bare the thought of having to tell my own grandchildren in years to come that I didn't vote yes to give them half a chance at life.
Vote yes, then vote out the snp (who will probably disbanden in the event of a yes vote anyway since the party's one common goal has been achieved).
I see the vote being close but in the end reflecting current polls. No will win by 53/54% - 46/47% imo. Bookmakers odds on No - 1/4 Yes - 3/1. Just my prediction.
Just a side issue but on the same topic, it pisses me off that for some the vote is coming down to what fucking football club in Glasgow an individual supports. By in large, a huge majority of Sevco fans are proving themselves to be the fuckwits that they are giving their 100% 'queen and country' commitment purely because it's in the football club they support's traditions and haven't been able to think for themselves how it will affect them and future generations.
On Saturday around 1,000 of their fans were under a huge "vote No" banner at Ibrox, call me skeptikal but given that polls are so close and opinions seem to differ from one person to the next up here I find it really really hard to believe that all 1,000 or so of these people just so happen to coincidently be thinking the same way and not just voting that way because their fellow zombies are.
Keep politics out of football altogether ffs, it shouldn't matter a jot which football club you support when it comes to an independence referendum. I'd have more respect for a Celtic fan - or anyone else for that matter - voting No for their own reasons than anyone just following a crowd.
This isn't the case for all sevco fans btw, not a dig at each and every one of them, but as a whole the clubs fans are using the club and it's traditions as reasons for a vote - which is shocking.