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Scottish Independence
- Thread starter Gray
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Not sure that's right mate and dont for a second think that all SNP voters are in favour of independence either as they are not.
I know many who vote for them because they are left of centre but didn't vote for independence and wouldn't now.
The SNP leadership and their MP's in Westminster with chips on each shoulder dont speak for a majority living up here.
You’re correct on that.
blueparrot
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To be fair the UK probably could do OK outside the EU like Norway does, if we had a deal with the EU like Norway does, however the government don't want that. Similarly an independent Scotland could probably manage the same way , Denmark , Ireland, Holland do. I’d rather it didn't feel the need to, but I fear an independent Scotland inside the EU less than a UK hard or no deal Brexit for the UK.Not at all, hence the smiley face. I’m just making the point on why they are similar to UKIP.
Imagine this in the Brexit thread-
“You don’t think it’s a good idea, 17.4 million leavers do. For every argument that we shouldn’t go for Brexit there is a counter argument. If Norway can operate quite successfully as a small independent country outside the EU can’t The UK? And what’s the alternative? Do you think that looks attractive from up here?”
The SNP have made such a piss poor attempt at running the country it’s in a worse position than the rest of the UK. The deficit is higher than the rest of the UK and the GDP is a third lower than Denmark’s, despite a similar population size.
The financial centre in Edinburgh will flock into England quicker than you could say the word geese.
There’s no confirmation the EU would have you/them and the economic hit would be devastating for the country.
There’s also absolutely no detail at all, at all, on currency, central governing bank, armed forces, borders etc.
As I say, this is Brexit on steroids.
As for the SNP , Ive done alright under them, voted for them, as a lot of English people here do, and so far not supported independence, its why they have been so successful , though the Labour implosion has helped, but you look where they've come from in the 20 years of Holyrood and it isn't down to Nationalism, especially the transfer of that success to Westminster where they used to do worse than in Scottish elections.
Like you I can only rely on anecdotal evidence in my case a mate (English) who lives up there and that's not the vibe I get and he is not a fan of the SNP. Personally I'd trust the judgement of Scottish based posters no offence.
Well I’m sorry to say your mate has either given you false information or wasn’t involved enough, possibly didn’t see enough of it.
It became incredibly toxic and I even know yes voters who don’t want to go through that again.
You can trust who you like, that’s up to you, it doesn’t make it the truth or not. We’re all only giving our opinions from a particular perspective.
Like you I can only rely on anecdotal evidence in my case a mate (English) who lives up there and that's not the vibe I get and he is not a fan of the SNP. Personally I'd trust the judgement of Scottish based posters no offence.
You get nutters everywhere, unfortunately.
Agree the overall picture is probably positive, but i do believe the negatives too, hopefully minimal odd occurrences.
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blueinsa
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The English nationalist wants out of Europe but gets very excercised when the Scots want to leave the UK. It's the ex girlfriend syndrome. How dare she leave me.
Yet you support one and not the other?
Confusing and people from all political persuasion voted to leave and a majority are not English nationalists, especially those from Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland.
Other than that do you have a point to make?
Postman Pep
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Sure do you not think it's a bit overboard to predict a toxic referendum campaign with nationalist violence seeking to silence the unionist voice?Like me then?
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blueinsa
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Sure do you not think it's a bit overboard to predict a toxic referendum campaign with nationalist violence seeking to silence the unionist voice?
Yeah I do but I predict like last time the country will say no.
Like me then?
Spartacus says hi..
Yet you support one and not the other?
Confusing and people from all political persuasion voted to leave and a majority are not English nationalists, especially those from Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland.
Other than that do you have a point to make?
So do you though?