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Scottish Independence
- Thread starter Gray
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Whilst we often disagree you are polite and put your points and opinions across well so fair play to you.
Happy to discuss and debate with posters like you.
Likewise.
@Coatigan
I only ask my posts are described accurately.
I’ve said those I’ve spoke with fear it could descend into violence.
This isn’t me “going over the top”.
My point was, you have little to base it on, blueinsa has more first hand experience. but point acknowledged. I didn't outright dismiss it either, as you can see in an earlier response.
You might have a point if we actually voted on an English independence question which we didn't and never will imo.
I get why the result is broken down by some as it excuses why they lost the vote or makes a case for the result to be ignored or for independence etc but we voted as UK citizens and the question asked was should the UK remain or leave the EU.
Nothing nationalistic about that but will cede it asked do we as a nation want political independence from the EU.
Search your feelings.. you'll struggle to deny it.
You love pointing out hypocrisy, as much as i hate absolutes.
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I'm not doubting those you've spoke to more the way you've shoehorned it into your view that SNP and UKIP are 2 sides of the same coin which I find ludicrous.@Coatigan
I only ask my posts are described accurately.
I’ve said those I’ve spoke with fear it could descend into violence.
This isn’t me “going over the top”.
My point was, you have little to base it on, blueinsa has more first hand experience. but point acknowledged. I didn't outright dismiss it either, as you can see in an earlier response.
I’m going off people who lived in Glasgow at the time of the last Independence Referendum.
I’m not saying there will or won’t be violence but there is concern there, considering how toxic the last was.
I'm not doubting those you've spoke to more the way you've shoehorned it into your view that SNP and UKIP are 2 sides of the same coin which I find ludicrous.
How have I shoe-horned that into that point?
You’re taking one point I have made and joined it to another.
You’re reading something that I’ve not actually written.
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Search your feelings.. you'll struggle to deny it.
You love pointing out hypocrisy, as much as i hate absolutes.
I live in Scotland and no doubt will till the day I die.
My twins have been here since they where 3 months old and are 8 now and see themselves as Scottish.
I voted for the UK to leave the EU and not for English independence or out of some nationalist thoughts.
I’m going off people who lived in Glasgow at the time of the last Independence Referendum.
I’m not saying there will or won’t be violence but there is concern there, considering how toxic the last was.
For what it's worth, i lived in glasgow during the same period. And after, for a good while.
The only violence i've seen,was a unionist rampage the day the result was announced.
Not that either experience can be used to make a sweeping statement. It is Glasgow, it can be the kindest place in the world on any given day, and see secterian violence the next.
Indeed, i've not enjoyed the referendum (neither for that matter), nor am i looking forward to the next one. Hopefully we have all learned and got it out of our system, and most minds are this time well made up by now, so this one should unfold a lot more quietly and privately.
Not aimed solely at you, btw, just sharing my experience for those asking.
For what it's worth, i lived in glasgow during the same period. And after, for a good while.
The only violence i've seen,was a unionist rampage the day the result was announced.
Not that either experience can be used to make a sweeping statement. It is Glasgow, it can be the kindest place in the world on any given day, and see secterian violence the next.
Indeed, i've not enjoyed the referendum (neither for that matter), nor am i looking forward to the next one. Hopefully we have all learned and got it out of our system, and most minds are this time well made up by now, so this one should unfold a lot more quietly and privately.
Not aimed solely at you, btw, just sharing my experience for those asking.
No no, you’ve not captured my point nor that of those I’ve spoken with who are from Glasgow.
They have said the atmosphere was toxic and yes voters were a silent majority as a result.
They have said they fear it could descend into violence this time.
The feeling is that it wasn’t nice last time and this time it could be worse.
The whole point was a side argument to the complexity of the topic.