Seat Counters - 2023/24

Stephen230 said:
There were two derbies at Old Trafford, one where we had 200 tickets. Think it was the Keane/ Haaland game.

And another where our allocation was zero. 1-0 early United goal before I’d even got there. Scholes maybe.

I’m guessing they were the two lowest capacities in recent times. Unless there was another reason for those allocations, that I’ve forgotten about.
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I remember those.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
I ended up in the car waiting for my mates who had tickets, stuck in a car park. When Brightwell scored I was going mad and I looked around and there were a couple of blues jumped out of the very next car celebrating. We all jumped around together and then got back in the car to listen to the end of the game.
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I was in the Stretford Paddock for that game with a fair few other blues
 
M18CTID said:
Old Trafford's capacity was slashed after the Hillsborough disaster in 1989, as was the capacity at every other ground. It might've been 58k before then (I had around 56k in mind) but it wasn't afterwards. On top of that, I definitely remember restrictions being put in place on the capacity for that February 1990 derby because of the trouble at Maine Road the previous September.
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I didn't know about the reduced capacity due to Hillsborough but they still got crowds over 47k. There was definitely no further reduction for the derby so I believe my point still stands
 
Gingers Dad said:
I didn't know about the reduced capacity due to Hillsborough but they still got crowds over 47k. There was definitely no further reduction for the derby so I believe my point still stands
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There were definitely restrictions on ticket sales. Maybe you needed 10 tokens or whatever. They needed to stop fans mixing in home ends after the big kick off in the 5-1.
 
M18CTID said:
Yeah, they should do. However, having a look on their forum there are plenty of complaints about the sales process. Apparently a lot of ST holders have bought match tickets for friends and family in the past but many of those people they bought for don't have an account, let alone a purchase history, so will be excluded when it goes to all fans with a purchase history. I also note that they've got similar complaints to what we've had in the past about gaps between sales windows. Coventry only have 3 sales windows for this match currently - ST holders, then members with 50 loyalty points, then members with a purchase history. There's a full week between each sales window which is daft. Also, some fans are confused as to what constitutes a purchase history - some think that buying something from the souvenir shop qualifies! Yet surely it's ticket purchases. The feeling amongst some Coventry fans is that it will sell out one way or another but they'll probably have to let ST holders buy extra. Obviously they can't just put it on open sale as the local Rags will snap them up:

www.skybluestalk.co.uk

Fa cup tickets

So do you need a purchase history this Thursday? Some seem to think you do. They probably think you do because that’s what the club announced!
www.skybluestalk.co.uk www.skybluestalk.co.uk
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I'm sure they took around 50k for the EFL trophy and the media had a field day. They obviously used us as the example and said that Coventry have a better support whilst City struggle to sell out.
I love that the context is always used with the media NOT!. Not to mention Coventry is about 1 hr 30 from Wembley. Coventry were struggling to get 10k not long ago
 
M18CTID said:
The 200 tickets game was 1992/93 and the Scholes 1-0 defeat zero tickets game was 1995/96. Keane/Haaland game was 2000/01 with a full allocation of City fans
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All I was going off is we were sat round about level with the edge of the penalty area in the 200 ticket game and also similar area for the Haaland game. I don’t remember sat that far round for normal allocation games.

But my memory and reality are often two very different things. So doesn’t mean much really.
 
Stephen230 said:
All I was going off is we were sat round about level with the edge of the penalty area in the 200 ticket game and also similar area for the Haaland game. I don’t remember sat that far round for normal allocation games.

But my memory and reality are often two very different things. So doesn’t mean much really.
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When we used to get the scoreboard end standing we always used to get a strip of seats level with the edge of the penalty box in the main stand there. It went from front to back, right next to where the away end is now. My memory tells me it was 850 seats but I don't know where I've got that from. I remember being at Anfield around the same time and we got a similar allocation.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
When we used to get the scoreboard end standing we always used to get a strip of seats level with the edge of the penalty box in the main stand there. It went from front to back, right next to where the away end is now. My memory tells me it was 850 seats but I don't know where I've got that from. I remember being at Anfield around the same time and we got a similar allocation.
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Did we never get seats above the Scoreboard paddock back in the day?, as i kid i was perched on the front of the stand with my legs dangling through the fences but i was never sure where our seated fans were sat there.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
I remember Man United/ARsenal semi final replay being half empty on the telly and I remember thinking "It must have been hard work sorting tickets out at short notice because that game would normally sell out". And that was that. I swear that's how it used to be.
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10000 below Capacity, never mentioned by them funnily enough!!
 
Gingers Dad said:
I didn't know about the reduced capacity due to Hillsborough but they still got crowds over 47k. There was definitely no further reduction for the derby so I believe my point still stands
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No they didnt. The reduced capacity (following the All seater requirement) was 43k so 47k as you quote was impossible. Their capacity at certain periods was down to 30/35k around that time.

There were 100% reductions for Derby’s. One year, 93/94 (pre all seater) United were given the standing away end (Scoreboard Paddock) due to redevelopment for most of that season and late on City were given a small number of tickets (400/500 tickets possibly) in the corner of the Scoreboard paddock, under the current away end. I remember as i got a ticket. Also Richard Edghill was stood with us.
 
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Bluearmy said:
No they didnt. The reduced capacity (following the All seater requirement) was 43k so 47k as you quote was impossible.

There were reductions for Derby’s. One year, either 93/94 (pre all seater) United were given the standing away end (Scoreboard Paddock) due to redevelopment for most of theat season and late on City were given a small number of tickets (400/500 tickets possibly) in the corner of the Scoreboard paddock, under the current away end. I remember as i got a ticket.
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Old Trafford definitely wasn't all seater in 89/90. They got over 47k against Arsenal for the opening game of the season. They got over 46k for the Liverpool match a couple of weeks after the Brightwell Derby. There was definitely no extra restrictions for the derby, they just couldn't be arsed.
 
philiph20 said:
Did we never get seats above the Scoreboard paddock back in the day?, as i kid i was perched on the front of the stand with my legs dangling through the fences but i was never sure where our seated fans were sat there.
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Cup game i think
 
Gingers Dad said:
Old Trafford definitely wasn't all seater in 89/90. They got over 47k against Arsenal for the opening game of the season. They got over 46k for the Liverpool match a couple of weeks after the Brightwell Derby. There was definitely no extra restrictions for the derby, they just couldn't be arsed.
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I never said it was…. It took years (5) following Hillsborough for full all seater stadiums to arrive…
 
M18CTID said:
A couple of mates were outside in that lot and they said they got in with about 10 minutes to go when they opened the entrances to let fans out. Unfortunately for them, they ended up in K Stand but made their way to the front and got helped down onto the Scoreboard Paddock by the blues below!

Yeah, so little was made back then of games that weren't full to capacity. I think the McCarthy derby attendance was purely down to it being live on TV though. Back in those days, attendances were hugely affected by live TV coverage. There were instances of games being selected for live TV that would have attendances that were 15,000-20,000 below the corresponding fixture the season before that wasn't on TV.
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I seem to recall that if a crowd was below the season's average when a live game was broadcast the club would be recompensed.
 
Bluearmy said:
I never said it was…. It took years (5) following Hillsborough for full all seater stadiums to arrive…
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No they didnt. The reduced capacity (following the All seater requirement) was 43k so 47k as you quote was impossible. Their capacity at certain periods was down to 30/35k around that time.
 
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