Seat Counters - 2024/25

M18CTID said:
Been thinking about this since last night and your thoughts mirror mine. If City hadn’t given/sold thousands of Forest home tickets to the third party ticket sites and instead put them on sale to members back in the summer, a lot of them would’ve been snapped up back then. Sure, it wouldn’t be the most in demand game with it being midweek in December but plenty of tickets would’ve shifted. However, few fans are going to pay those prices now when thousands have been returned to City at such short notice, even if we were in a good run of form.

I’d like to know who at City thought it would be a good idea to shift thousands of tickets to third party ticket agencies for a midweek league game in December against Forest and expecting them all to sell. Whoever made that decision is a fucking idiot.
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Im sure the bean counters will consider it a risk worth taking. Most weekend PL games are sold out with this strategy. Even for the lower profile games where the agencies return tickets - they are usually able to shift 2000 tickets a few days before the game. There will be odd midweek game where they can’t - but the extra revenue for this strategy across the whole season will make up for empty seats at 2 or 3 games.

It’s why they don’t want season ticket holders - they want more tickets going onto the inflated agency market.
 
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TivvyBlue said:
275 seats in 325 tomorrow - these whole rows aren't due to ST returns
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As well as other things it looks like City are earmarking chunks of tickets for groups/schools etc.

Trouble is on a cold work/school night there's not many takers even at knockdown prices.

This is the result and why local fans can't get in even at inflated prices.
 
 
Eds said:
According to the OS this is a list of authorised sellers, why we need so many is beyond me.
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The ticket agencies are arms length arrangements. No club is ever going to admit official partnership with the agencies - imagine the fallout of the public finding out clubs are selling tickets for 7 or 8 times face value.

Fans are on currently holding demos on normal tickets but that ain’t the half of it.

It will all come out eventually.

Football is heading the way of the live music business. Made me laugh that surge pricing became a hot topic when Oasis used it - when it had been around for ages and used by multiple elite artists.

The reason Ticketmaster sell gig tickets for anything up to £500 these days is that they realised the punters were selling tickets on Viagogo for that amount ( with punters getting the profit ).

Ticketmaster thought fuck that, we will have a piece of that. Gig tickets doubled in price - fake VIP or premier elements allowed them to make up a figure up to £500. You can also only sell them back via Ticketmaster.

Even surge pricing where they price will increase £200+ whilst you are in the queue.

I recall reading an interview with the CEO of Livenation (who own Ticketmaster) where they changed perception of a simple gig ticket into a one off experience which allowed them to inflate the fees ( to over $1000 in the US for some gigs ).

I used to go a music gig every week - would be impossible to afford that now.

How long till football catches up ?
 
Prophet of Doom said:
Aww bless….if you think that I’ve got some magic beans for sale.

It’s explained perfect above by Greenandblue.

City put tickets for sale for every game in August. They all sell out. Except that is for the thousands of tickets City hand to agents such as Livefootball to sell for ridiculous mark ups to tourists.

Everybody wins - city get huge margins on these tickets - get no grief as they are being sold by mystery agencies - and some tourist gets to pay £250-£400 for a premier league experience.

Except there is a problem when games are not popular. Like Forest tomorrow - where the agents have to hand back 4000 unsold tickets to City a week before the game.too late for most supporters to make plans now - so there will be thousands empty on Wednesday.

They will of course be doing the rounds across local schools to try and get bums on seats.

Every PL team is at it - you can go to any game you want to - home or away end - as long as you have your £400 ready you will get in.
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Of course they use agents to try to shift home tickets. Not a prayer that City use agents to sell away tickets. Why the fck would they?
 
Gingers Dad said:
Of course they use agents to try to shift home tickets. Not a prayer that City use agents to sell away tickets. Why the fck would they?
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Why would they need to use an agency to shift derby tickets?

Yet you can still quick on the quicklink on the club website, that takes you directly to ‘sports breaks’ website, where plenty of derby tickets are on sale to anybody with the cash.
 
Gingers Dad said:
Of course they use agents to try to shift home tickets. Not a prayer that City use agents to sell away tickets. Why the fck would they?
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Ehhh ?? We’ve been talking on here about 3000 tickets appearing for sale on the club site for the Forest match tomorrow.

You popped us and stated there is no way the club is using an agency to flog tickets at inflated prices.

Several posts showing up your response as absolute tripe and you now completely change your mind and now agree they DO use agents but only for home games.

Sorry I can’t take you seriously. You still up for buying these magic beans ??
 
Prophet of Doom said:
Ehhh ?? We’ve been talking on here about 3000 tickets appearing for sale on the club site for the Forest match tomorrow.

You popped us and stated there is no way the club is using an agency to flog tickets at inflated prices.

Several posts showing up your response as absolute tripe and you now completely change your mind and now agree they DO use agents but only for home games.

Sorry I can’t take you seriously. You still up for buying these magic beans ??
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away tier or across the ground?
 
blue b4 the moon said:
As well as other things it looks like City are earmarking chunks of tickets for groups/schools etc.

Trouble is on a cold work/school night there's not many takers even at knockdown prices.

This is the result and why local fans can't get in even at inflated prices.
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Surely there must be schools in the local area we can give these ticket to?
 
Greenandblue said:
I'm sorry, but I think they almost certainly are. Just dealing with the more reputable ones, but they are using them as sales agents. Those sites have too many tickets, all sat together, and in the same blocks in the ground, often East Stand 3rd tier near the back, hundreds of seats. Most people you speak to sitting there will have paid more than face value from a ticketing site. Rows of seats together. When they don't shift them, you''ll see clusters of empties in those sections, even at big matches.

See Liverpool at home next year, 1,350 tickets available on a site, starting at £250 after fees. I know, maybe these sites are spoofing how many that have, but if you've sat up high in the third tier for a big home game, it's absolutely full of opposition fans and event tourists. And the number available will go down up to kickoff.

Why would City sell me a Liverpool ticket for £72, if they can get 3 times that by using an agency? They don't shout about it, and I'm sure there's a mechanism to distance themselves from it, but I will be humbly suprised and apologetic if i'm proven wrong on this.


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It was the same when I was in block 107. Entire rows of seats always unavailable, but you’d see them on these ticketing websites with ridiculous prices

The club are clearly involved. There’s too many tickets for them not to be
 
Prophet of Doom said:
Ehhh ?? We’ve been talking on here about 3000 tickets appearing for sale on the club site for the Forest match tomorrow.

You popped us and stated there is no way the club is using an agency to flog tickets at inflated prices.

Several posts showing up your response as absolute tripe and you now completely change your mind and now agree they DO use agents but only for home games.

Sorry I can’t take you seriously. You still up for buying these magic beans ??
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I think you've got issues
 
Stephen230 said:
Why would they need to use an agency to shift derby tickets?

Yet you can still quick on the quicklink on the club website, that takes you directly to ‘sports breaks’ website, where plenty of derby tickets are on sale to anybody with the cash.
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That's the same for every game in the country
 
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