Singing section/Atmosphere

jrb said:
After I got home last night I watched the last 10 minutes of the match.

I was absolutely amazed at how loud and noisy the Bristol City fans were.

Where I stand at the back of 115, and under the overhang, I only heard them briefly throughout the match. I wrkngly thought they were very quiet.

As we know, the stadium is dreadful for noise to travel around it. Unfortunately this can never be fixed

8000 away fans in SS2 and SS3 sounded impressive on the TV. They are killing the home support in cup games.
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they made a bleeding racket, you must have had ear muffs on.
 
I have a season ticket in ss3 and get moved for the cup games.Was in ss2 in the corner for the Burnley fa cup game and in block 115 lower tier for the brizzle game last night.The way that whole end is set up is plain wrong and is ,in my opinion detrimental to the atmosphere.Needs a total rethink .Acoustics wise Ss3 is where it’s at as The sound carries better.
 
jrb said:
After I got home last night I watched the last 10 minutes of the match.

I was absolutely amazed at how loud and noisy the Bristol City fans were.

Where I stand at the back of 115, and under the overhang, I only heard them briefly throughout the match. I wrkngly thought they were very quiet.

As we know, the stadium is dreadful for noise to travel around it. Unfortunately this can never be fixed

8000 away fans in SS2 and SS3 sounded impressive on the TV. They are killing the home support in cup games.
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Yeah, under the overhang you could hardly hear the Bristol City fans but in the second half I moved towards the front and you could hear them loud and clear from there.

For me the South Stand 3rd tier is the best place in the ground to get an atmosphere going because of the high roof which, unlike the old roof is made of material that reflects noise rather than absorbs it. Stick 6000 noisy away fans in SS3 (along with 1600 in SS2) like last night and we're always going to be fighting a losing battle like we were in 115 last night
 
Some of my thoughts on last night:

- If you weren't there, you can't really whinge about the atmosphere.
- Away fans were very loud, hard to outsing 7,000 fans in the biggest game in their history.
- 115 is the only block that consistently tries to get songs going.
- If YOU don't sing, wherever you are in the ground, how can you expect the atmosphere to improve?
- We will comfortably outsing them when we go to Ashton Gate - that's how it works in the country.

1894 Group are going to organise a singing section for the Basel game. If you're actually bothered about the atmosphere (which you must be, otherwise you wouldn't be on this thread) then pull your finger out and make the effort! If you can't be arsed, stop whinging.
 
When our player's names were being read out before the game, you could mostly hear booing from Bristol City fans. Most people around me were just chatting or on their phones. Cheer you muppets.
 
Manchester33 said:
Some of my thoughts on last night:

- If you weren't there, you can't really whinge about the atmosphere.
- Away fans were very loud, hard to outsing 7,000 fans in the biggest game in their history.
- 115 is the only block that consistently tries to get songs going.
- If YOU don't sing, wherever you are in the ground, how can you expect the atmosphere to improve?
- We will comfortably outsing them when we go to Ashton Gate - that's how it works in the country.

1894 Group are going to organise a singing section for the Basel game. If you're actually bothered about the atmosphere (which you must be, otherwise you wouldn't be on this thread) then pull your finger out and make the effort! If you can't be arsed, stop whinging.
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Exactly. We've tried literally everything within our power over the past few years to try and improve the atmosphere and despite some people on this thread claiming it's been a total failure, that's not the case. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

When the opportunity to move into 115 became available as a result of the re-structuring of the away section due to the 3rd tier of the South Stand opening, we pushed it as much as possible and emphasised the point that those wanting to move there should be up for creating an atmosphere so what happens? Some fans moved there with no intention of getting involved and we now have a situation where, somewhat astonishingly, during one home game last season one of our guys was told to stop singing....in the fucking singing section. What also didn't help was that some that were originally planning to relocate there instead relocated again to SS3 to take advantage of the cheaper ST prices.

We've positioned ourselves at the back of the stand but the songs don't always travel well down and across the block due to both the low overhang and not enough people further down the block not putting any legwork in to help the songs carry, so for CL games we've re-positioned ourselves at the front of the stand and despite the best efforts of some of us there (I say some of us because some of those that relocated to the front with us couldn't be arsed joining in for some weird reason) constantly trying to get things going, the middle rows stayed mainly silent so any link with the singers at the back was fragmented and vice versa. Moving to the middle of the block would probably be the best thing to do but there's never enough seating availability to position a block of 70 or so fans there.

We made the controversial decision to use a drum versus Gladbach last season because their fans had battered ours for atmosphere with the aid of their own drums the season before. It wasn't as disastrous as some predicted but one of the guys using it in the first half got a shit load of disgraceful abuse on the concourse at half time. Now we don't have a problem with people not being in favour of using a drum but what we won't have is someone being called a nonce for having the balls to step up and give it a go. No doubt the **** who came out with that has probably never started a song off in their lives.
 
I was in 115 row L and could hear them loud and clear. They must be rich with the amount of coins they threw down at us must of been the first few rows of second tier, added when they scored a penalty one decided to throw (or maybe drop) a oasis bottle with no lid on that hit an old fella.

Anyway, I think it’s hard to get an atmosphere going when you have 7000 odd fans singing over you as some people simply give up. Even when we sang, it soon died out after 10 seconds.

Also, whoever was in row m with a black leather jacket and city scarf should be ashamed calling Yaya a black bastard.
 
I don't believe people don't WANT to sing. They once did. It's a great feeling to sing along with thousands.

People don't want to sing ALONE. Getting started is the problem.
If you have reached a critical mass others will join in.
That's easy in a standing terrace where can stand where you want, join your mates and friends.
Starting a song together with your social group is quite easy.

Nothing will improve without standing.
Bristol fans didn't sit I reckon. And they were a group coming with the same intention.
That just isn't the case about home sections. Intentions are very different within a section. Then you need "routines" everybody knows and can join in.
Takes a lot of time to create all that and a huge amount of cooperation from the club.

As for now it's a lost fight. It's so sad really. Missed chances of wonderful moments.

Should be something like this:
- minimum 3,000 safe standing section in the end opposite to guest fans
- close to the pitch, lower part, for togetherness with players and for TV reasons
- 20 quid per ticket
- no opposite fans and opposite colours allowed of course for security reasons
- create a fanbase homepage with a songbook and quality videos
- create a positive philosophy to fully support your club, without humiliating opponents
- enjoy the togetherness
 
blingy said:
Everyone must think the beer and food is cheeper or it’s 6° warmer in the family stand yall that desperate to get over there and kick the families out, hypocrisy at its best.
Cudos to those in the corner and next to the away fans in the south who have made noise since we moved to the ground but the rest of south stand with the few singers they have barley make any noise so what makes them/ you think you can fill the whole north stand with singers when you can’t even fill what you got now with singers.
There have been many attempts to put singers together in the same block for cup games by the 1894 group and I’d be surprised if they actually got a whole block together, never looked like they did and never sounded like they did, but fair play to them for trying so filling a whole north stand and maybe a extended north stand as some of you are suggesting is ridicules .
I’d go as far as saying there’s enough room for the family stand and the few hundred singers to cohabit a tier let alone a full stand.
And why would you want to move away from the away fans. Growing up on the Kippax and plat lane was special having the away fans in the cage to bounce off. Then was the same when away fans was moved into the north stand with the more vocal home fans switching Kippax corners and the north stand becoming more lively. Moving what singers they are now would sterilise the atmosphere even more in my opinion.

And for those saying time to kick the family’s / fuck the families off etc etc very nice of you . Give them a try next to the away fans they would probably make more noise then you
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I think you would find with the introduction of safe standing you would quite easily fill out a developed North stand. We are not asking for Dortmunds wall or anything of the likes. City are not stupid, with people more and more pushing for standing across the country they would hold off for the time being.

The problem with the South stand is that it is already done up, the ship has sailed already. To stay in there is just to continue how it is. Lots of ground do just fine being nowhere near away fans. The likes of Bayern Munich, Gladbach and Liverpool with the Kop if you want to look closer to home are all the opposite end. Scum with the Stretford end as well. As mentioned previous this might actually improve it not just the typical shit you have every game taking the piss out of the away section.

In regards to the family stand what other ground has such a big family section? I would not do away with such a section completely as it is a good idea for the kids but just move it. If they don't want to move that's fine, just let them know it will be stood up, singing and swearing etc. I think they would last a season at most.

The final part you make about moving them to the south stand and making more noise. Really. Give me a bit of whatever you're drinking if so. The south stand and the corner block is the only place in the ground to make any noise. In no way am I saying it is brilliant but nothing from the other 3 stands. Why do you think stand up if you love city is sung from 115 every game. To try and get people involved. Then bluemoon or whatever is sung straight after it hopefully everyone is still on there feet and joins in with it. Never happens that way mind.
 
IanBishopsHaircut said:
This is what we need to do but I’ve heard it’s for policing reasons they are there..the best solution is to move the main home stand to the North stand and redevelop it accordingly..moving the families next to the away support in the South Stand
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Yep. For those saying that the main singing section needs to be next to the away fans to give them something to bounce off, I don't see it like that. A fully redeveloped end at the other side of the stadium - preferably a single tier stand as opposed to being split over 3 tiers - would do more for the atmosphere IMO, especially if safe standing gets the go ahead.
 
IanBishopsHaircut said:
This is what we need to do but I’ve heard it’s for policing reasons they are there..the best solution is to move the main home stand to the North stand and redevelop it accordingly..moving the families next to the away support in the South Stand
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It was always going to be the case, if away fans are housed at one end & we put the singing section near there, that they would end up with thousands of away fans stood next to them, at a cup game. No way the police are going to suddenly change their operations.

How often, in the history of football, have a huge away contingent of City fans, been housed next to the home singers ?

In the days when I used to go, it only ever happened at small time clubs.

The singing section from that club would be at the other end, singing, then the brain dead moron section, who spend all the game throwing darts etc, would be housed at the other end, next to the City fans.

Even Leeds had an opposite singing 'end' .
 
RACHACE said:
I was in 117 last night and the atmosphere wasn’t particularly lively.

I suppose cup games are a tough one because there are a lot not in their regular seats with familiar faces.
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Interesting - I observed completely the opposite. A lot of SC holders are not in the cup scheme or didn't turn up. For Bristol and Burnley had different people around me and what a difference. Very passionate and join in the singing. I don't know if these are relocated fans or fans just picking up tickets in the cup but much more enjoyable. Back to the regulars next and a more subdued atmosphere.

The other thing is why on earth do we give opposition fans a prime location rather than sticking them high up in the corners.
 
jrb said:
After I got home last night I watched the last 10 minutes of the match.

I was absolutely amazed at how loud and noisy the Bristol City fans were.

Where I stand at the back of 115, and under the overhang, I only heard them briefly throughout the match. I wrkngly thought they were very quiet.

As we know, the stadium is dreadful for noise to travel around it. Unfortunately this can never be fixed

8000 away fans in SS2 and SS3 sounded impressive on the TV. They are killing the home support in cup games.
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They did fair play, but try a home game at Ashton Gate in the league and you will think our place is like the San Siro.
 
typicalcity... said:
I was in 115 row L and could hear them loud and clear. They must be rich with the amount of coins they threw down at us must of been the first few rows of second tier, added when they scored a penalty one decided to throw (or maybe drop) a oasis bottle with no lid on that hit an old fella.

Anyway, I think it’s hard to get an atmosphere going when you have 7000 odd fans singing over you as some people simply give up. Even when we sang, it soon died out after 10 seconds.

Also, whoever was in row m with a black leather jacket and city scarf should be ashamed calling Yaya a black bastard.
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did any one around that man pull him up on what he shouted at YAYA?
bit of a joke if not,he should get a dig or at least be repoted to a steward and a picture took of him,i understand some people dont like confrontation but this should not be tolerated,not the first time i have heard of something like this.
 
As I said in a previous post.The way it’s all laid out in the south stand side of the ground is all wrong .Definately agree that the problem is where the away fans are situated at that end of the ground .It splits the core home support up.Really think the answer is to have a designated home end where the family stand is now ,because at the minute it’s just not working.
 
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