so this agenda thing.

[Deleted member 58678]

Would it help if the word 'agenda' was replaced by 'bias'.
Agenda implies a conspiracy, bias does not.

Yes.

It would somewhat stop this image I have of some of our fans:
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[Chris in London]

I wonder if the people who think 'there is no agenda' mean the same thing when they use the word 'agenda' as the people who think 'there is an agenda'?

If they are largely referring to two separate things it is possible that both are right

 

[lafitz2008]

<a class="postlink" href="http://whatculture.com/sport/10-players-probably-regret-joining-man-city.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://whatculture.com/sport/10-players ... n-city.php</a>

Comments for Adam Johnson are good....

'Johnson has since moved to Sunderland, where he has found first team appearances much easier to come by. He must have wished he had made that decision earlier in his career.'

 

[NanaToure42]

SSN shows a clip of neymar speaking about his injury and the forthcoming final. a caption pops up as they do introducing him as neymar, barcalona and brazil.
the next player interviewed is aguero. now his caption just reads argentina. no mention of his club side. anyone got any idea why they would mention one players club, during a world cup, and not the other? the next guy interviewed is maxi rodriguez, yes you guess it from newels old boys and argentina. why's that then?

genuine question.

I personally do not give 2 shits and think u may need to see a shrink if u think this is an example of the media out to get us (which they are, this just isn't an example of it).

 

[The Future's Blue]

Just to put things in perspective, although perspective is what many of you lack:

Everton fans convinced of agenda against their club:
<a class="postlink" href="http://footyscene.com/everton-media-agenda/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://footyscene.com/everton-media-agenda/</a>

United fans convinced of agenda against their club:
<a class="postlink" href="http://therepublikofmancunia.com/stand-up-if-you-hate-man-u-manchester-united-against-the-world/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://therepublikofmancunia.com/stand- ... the-world/</a>

Arsenal fans convinced of agenda against their club:
<a class="postlink" href="http://lockerdome.com/6170043750821953/6460607717190932" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://lockerdome.com/6170043750821953/6460607717190932</a>

Liverpool fans convinced of agenda against their club:
<a class="postlink" href="http://forums.liverpoolfc.com/threads/350665-Is-there-a-media-negative-agenda-LFC" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://forums.liverpoolfc.com/threads/3 ... agenda-LFC</a>

Chelsea fans convinced of agenda against their club:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.footballforums.net/showthread.php/278657-Media-bias-against-Chelsea" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.footballforums.net/showthrea ... st-Chelsea</a>

Spurs fans convinced of agenda against their club:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A26598360" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A26598360</a>

Southampton fans convinced of agenda against their club:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/southampton/news/34912/are-saints-the-subject-of-a-campaign-of-disruption-in-the-media" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/s ... -the-media</a>

Now that's just starting with England's top eight. I could go right down the pyramid should I desire, and abroad. Most football fans are not capable of being remotely objective about their club because they only see things from their own perspective.

Going off topic a bit, but I love this from that Repuklic of Mancunia link:

Fancy being from Darlington or Ealing or Kidderminster, having absolutely nothing to do with United, but supporting anything or anyone that attacks or beats us. What kind of existence is that?

Fancy being from Darlington or Ealing or Kidderminster, having absolutely nothing to do with United, but supporting them. What kind of existence is that?

*Smilie*

 

[NanaToure42]

If anyone was wondering, here in America I sense a slight anti-City bias at times but it only comes occasionally from a small group of middle age former English players (Robbie Mustoe, Warren Barton, Craig Burley, and Stevey Nicol are the ones that come to mind) Other than those few sometimes having a slightly skewed opinion I'd say almost all of the "soccer" media on this side of the Atlantic are fair. Steve McManaman is as unbiased and insightful as they come if you ask me. I find Ian Darke a bit quirky but he's the best play-by-play guy in the country.

On a side about the international game and ESPN's World Cup coverage, if Roberto Martinez decides to stop managing, he'd make an amazing studio analyst. His insight of USA v Belgium/ Lukaku v Howard, as well as Spain and their failures was amazing and he remained neutral in a way which I'm sure could not come naturally. Better than Michael Ballack or Ruud Van Nistelrooy who remained neutral (aside from a few jokes) and we're certainly insightful but haven't quite yet mastered the English language well enough to fully get across their points across.

 

[Len Rum]

Would it help if the word 'agenda' was replaced by 'bias'.
Agenda implies a conspiracy, bias does not.

As soon as the Agenda cranks get backed into a corner with the blatant lunacy of their conspiracy, they turn the whole conversation around with a "so you are saying there is no bias anywhere in the media",

It's a bit like David Icke claiming the world is run by lizards who wear purple, and then answering "so you are saying that all world leaders are totally honest" when told of the nonsense of his statement.

Could we be on the cusp of an historic agreement here?

Are you saying that whilst you do not agree that there is a media agenda against City you do accept that there is bias in the media against City?

Come on DD, Bluemoon awaits your reply.

 

[George Hannah]

As soon as the Agenda cranks get backed into a corner with the blatant lunacy of their conspiracy, they turn the whole conversation around with a "so you are saying there is no bias anywhere in the media",

It's a bit like David Icke claiming the world is run by lizards who wear purple, and then answering "so you are saying that all world leaders are totally honest" when told of the nonsense of his statement.

Could we be on the cusp of an historic agreement here?

Are you saying that whilst you do not agree that there is a media agenda against City you do accept that there is bias in the media against City?

Come on DD, Bluemoon awaits your reply.

 

[hutton who blue]

Could we be on the cusp of an historic agreement here?

Are you saying that whilst you do not agree that there is a media agenda against City you do accept that there is bias in the media against City?

Come on DD, Bluemoon awaits your reply.

Summed up. Emphatically. Wants blues wasting time with his inane blathering. This might knock more rag cronies into oblivion on this excellent forum.

 

[NickGw2]

If anyone was wondering, here in America I sense a slight anti-City bias at times but it only comes occasionally from a small group of middle age former English players (Robbie Mustoe, Warren Barton, Craig Burley, and Stevey Nicol are the ones that come to mind) Other than those few sometimes having a slightly skewed opinion I'd say almost all of the "soccer" media on this side of the Atlantic are fair. Steve McManaman is as unbiased and insightful as they come if you ask me. I find Ian Darke a bit quirky but he's the best play-by-play guy in the country.

On a side about the international game and ESPN's World Cup coverage, if Roberto Martinez decides to stop managing, he'd make an amazing studio analyst. His insight of USA v Belgium/ Lukaku v Howard, as well as Spain and their failures was amazing and he remained neutral in a way which I'm sure could not come naturally. Better than Michael Ballack or Ruud Van Nistelrooy who remained neutral (aside from a few jokes) and we're certainly insightful but haven't quite yet mastered the English language well enough to fully get across their points across.

I like Ballack. Thought his comments were spot on. None of the foreign commentators could really be blamed fir showing bias as that seemed to be the angle ESPN took. They wanted their perspective for their "team".
I like McManaman also. Though we will be roasted here for saying it. Someone mentioned earlier he wasn't labeled an ex-city player. ESPN had been covering the English game for a couple years now ( prior to NBC taking over ). In the past it has been mentioned he played for us.
As far as agenda goes, well, I get sick of watching premiere league commercials here and always seeing the Rooney bicycle kick in the derby, mainly rag, gooner or Chelsea game footage. I may be looking for an agenda as this topic comes up every year, so I notice that the ribbons on the trophy aren't blue when we have won it.