so this agenda thing.

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Didsbury Dave said:
Just to put things in perspective, although perspective is what many of you lack:

Everton fans convinced of agenda against their club:
<a class="postlink" href="http://footyscene.com/everton-media-agenda/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://footyscene.com/everton-media-agenda/</a>

United fans convinced of agenda against their club:
<a class="postlink" href="http://therepublikofmancunia.com/stand-up-if-you-hate-man-u-manchester-united-against-the-world/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://therepublikofmancunia.com/stand- ... the-world/</a>

Arsenal fans convinced of agenda against their club:
<a class="postlink" href="http://lockerdome.com/6170043750821953/6460607717190932" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://lockerdome.com/6170043750821953/6460607717190932</a>

Liverpool fans convinced of agenda against their club:
<a class="postlink" href="http://forums.liverpoolfc.com/threads/350665-Is-there-a-media-negative-agenda-LFC" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://forums.liverpoolfc.com/threads/3 ... agenda-LFC</a>

Chelsea fans convinced of agenda against their club:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.footballforums.net/showthread.php/278657-Media-bias-against-Chelsea" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.footballforums.net/showthrea ... st-Chelsea</a>

Spurs fans convinced of agenda against their club:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A26598360" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A26598360</a>

Southampton fans convinced of agenda against their club:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/southampton/news/34912/are-saints-the-subject-of-a-campaign-of-disruption-in-the-media" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/s ... -the-media</a>

Now that's just starting with England's top eight. I could go right down the pyramid should I desire, and abroad. Most football fans are not capable of being remotely objective about their club because they only see things from their own perspective.
You've raised this argument for non agenda before and it is just as invalid now as it was then.

Just because all fans think there is an agenda against their club it doesn't follow that there is no agenda against any club.

I can agree with you that fans will look at things from their own perspective. I'm sure the 'agendist' Liverpool fans were happy to ignore last season's media 'love in' including their many ex player pundits. Also the United fans will conveniently ignore the many media outlets that have an in built pro Rag agenda, driven by commercial interests.

So where are the pro City factions in the media ? Apart from the odd balanced Martin Samuel article in the Mail and a few pro City statements from Durham (wumming purposes only) and Wedderburn on Sky there aren't many.

The smell of that coffee is going to overwhelm you soon!
 
There is a natural bias in the media in favour of clubs that have been more successful than City over the last 30 years. United and Liverpool have a greater representation of fans working in the media.

There is also a commercial agenda in the media in favour of United and other clubs. Sky, ITV, Talksport, The Sun etc believe that they will get a bigger audience for their programmes for matches and stories involving United.

Does that mean that there is an agenda against City? There are clearly people working in the media that do not like our wealth. They might have a personal agenda against City. That's different to the idea that their employers are engaged in some conspiracy to do us down.
 
Then it's not really an agenda at all is it?

Websites and newspapers make money from the adverts that run alongside the articles. If you write a story about city and it gets 10,000 hits, the advertisements earn you a certain commission. If you write a story about the rags or the dippers and it gets 100,000 hits then you'll make more money. It's not an agenda, it's simple economics.

It's not even worth crying about, because there's nothing you or I can do about the numbers of people involved. Be happy that you are unique.
 
pantalon violet again said:
Conservative part reshuffle
One of the MP's just said that the party is " united" Behring Cameron

Fucking thought we were champions , ???

Bury your head in the sand people , you're delusional if you don't think there's an agenda against us

Wait until Match of The Day credits come out for the new season. The national grid will collapse in Manchester with all these clowns slo-mo ing through their Sky+ to count the number of milliseconds exposure City get compared to United last season. Woe betide the BBC if it isn't equal or better.

There will be clips on Youtube, badly constructed complaint emails , new threads and everything. Viva la revolution. It will rock the media like Leveson.
 
pantalon violet again said:
Conservative part reshuffle
One of the MP's just said that the party is " united" Behring Cameron

Fucking thought we were champions , ???

Bury your head in the sand people , you're delusional if you don't think there's an agenda against us

Not to mention women.
Every time they have a period, guess what colour it is?
Now if half of the population of the world are rags who hate us, what chance do we stand?
This whole agenda business is such ludicrous nonsense that I give it about as much headspace as Roswell, crop circles and the Turin Shroud.
But laughing at the conspiracy theorists and their increasingly bonkers ramblings is an endless source of amusement.
 
pantalon violet again said:
Conservative party reshuffle
One of the MP's just said that the party is " united" Behind Cameron

Fucking thought we were champions , ???

Bury your head in the sand people , you're delusional if you don't think there's an agenda against us
But the Conservatives are the party that are friendly towards the City. You agendist you!
 
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
pantalon violet again said:
Conservative part reshuffle
One of the MP's just said that the party is " united" Behring Cameron

Fucking thought we were champions , ???

Bury your head in the sand people , you're delusional if you don't think there's an agenda against us

Not to mention women.
Every time they have a period, guess what colour it is?
Now if half of the population of the world are rags who hate us, what chance do we stand?
This whole agenda business is such ludicrous nonsense that I give it about as much headspace as Roswell, crop circles and the Turin Shroud.
But laughing at the conspiracy theorists and their increasingly bonkers ramblings is an endless source of amusement.
Would it help if the word 'agenda' was replaced by 'bias'.
Agenda implies collaboration, bias does not.
 
Len Rum said:
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
pantalon violet again said:
Conservative part reshuffle
One of the MP's just said that the party is " united" Behring Cameron

Fucking thought we were champions , ???

Bury your head in the sand people , you're delusional if you don't think there's an agenda against us

Not to mention women.
Every time they have a period, guess what colour it is?
Now if half of the population of the world are rags who hate us, what chance do we stand?
This whole agenda business is such ludicrous nonsense that I give it about as much headspace as Roswell, crop circles and the Turin Shroud.
But laughing at the conspiracy theorists and their increasingly bonkers ramblings is an endless source of amusement.
Would it help if the word 'agenda' was replaced by 'bias'.

Well yes it would, but it would also change the entire meaning of the thread, as it is titled 'so this agenda thing'.
Which, and I know I'm foolish to think this, led me to believe it was discussing the existence of an agenda, because I'm literal like that.
I accept that certain journalists are biased - some for us, most against us, the reason for this being that most are not Manchester City fans.
But this perceived media bias is a million miles away from any orchestrated campaign to discredit and ruin our club, which is what some folk believe exists.
 
Len Rum said:
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
pantalon violet again said:
Conservative part reshuffle
One of the MP's just said that the party is " united" Behring Cameron

Fucking thought we were champions , ???

Bury your head in the sand people , you're delusional if you don't think there's an agenda against us

Not to mention women.
Every time they have a period, guess what colour it is?
Now if half of the population of the world are rags who hate us, what chance do we stand?
This whole agenda business is such ludicrous nonsense that I give it about as much headspace as Roswell, crop circles and the Turin Shroud.
But laughing at the conspiracy theorists and their increasingly bonkers ramblings is an endless source of amusement.
Would it help if the word 'agenda' was replaced by 'bias'.
Agenda implies a conspiracy, bias does not.

As soon as the Agenda cranks get backed into a corner with the blatant lunacy of their conspiracy, they turn the whole conversation around with a "so you are saying there is no bias anywhere in the media",

It's a bit like David Icke claiming the world is run by lizards who wear purple, and then answering "so you are saying that all world leaders are totally honest" when told of the nonsense of his statement.
 
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