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from the Guardian web site -

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<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theguardian.com/football/video/2014/nov/26/pep-guardiola-bayern-munich-manchester-city-video" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theguardian.com/football/vid ... city-video</a>?

from their odious Danny Boy

Manchester City beat Bayern Munich

The truly astonishing thing about what happened here in that wild, breathless finale is that, ignoring for one moment the extraordinary five-minute spell when Manchester City shocked maybe even themselves, it had been another night to expose their shortcomings in Europe. They had been out-passed, out-thought and frequently humbled by a Bayern side that were down to 10 men after 20 minutes and Manuel Pellegrini would have faced some difficult questions but for what happened next.

Many of those questions are still legitimate but if there is one thing that cannot be said of Pellegrini’s team it is that they lack qualities of perseverance. “We’ll fight to the end,” goes the song, and what a recovery in those last few minutes when Bayern Munich’s resolve disintegrated and Sergio Agüero turned this game upside down. It was the same net where Agüero had produced his 93:20 moment after the comeback of all comebacks. This one did not quite match the levels of hysteria but the euphoria, nonetheless, was extreme.[/size]

Agüero made it feel as though he must be immune to nerves on those two occasions when he ran clear to face Manuel Neuer, the best goalkeeper in his business. He had opened the scoring with a penalty and when everything was done his hat-trick had left City knowing that a scoring draw, when they face Roma in Stadio Olimpico, will be enough to qualify through the back door, as long as CSKA Moscow are incapable of beating Bayern in the Allianz Arena. The permutations are numerous and merely add to the chaotic feel of those final exchanges, when Pep Guardiola seemed to be straying dangerously close to the point of spontaneous combustion.

Bayern, even with 10 men, had an unerring knack of keeping the ball. Another team might have wilted after Mehdi Benatia was sent off for bringing down Agüero for his penalty. Bayern needed only a few minutes to shake their heads clear. They dominated possession – with 64% of the ball in the first half and 56% by the end – and Uefa’s statistics also showed the 10 men made 563 passes compared to City’s 403. Even in defeat, Bayern had left an impressive calling card.

They had also a midfielder in Xabi Alonso who demonstrated so much supreme control on the night of his 33rd birthday it felt almost absurd that he inadvertently set up Agüero’s second goal with a loose pass. Alonso’s free-kick to make it 1-1 was, in the vernacular of the schoolground, a pea-roller, played low and across the ground to pick out the bottom corner and expose some poor organisation between Joe Hart and his defensive wall. Yet Alonso’s contribution had been about much more than the equalising goal until he gave the ball to the substitute Stevan Jovetic and Agüero raced away to score with a left-footed finish.

Eleven-versus-eleven, Guardiola’s team had been strutting around to their own game of keep-ball. A man down, the Bundesliga champions seemed absolutely determined to show they could hold their own. City, in stark contrast, had looked erratic and prone to making mistakes. Alonso’s goal came from a foul by Fernando in a position where he should have been operating with more care and Robert Lewandowski had Vincent Kompany and Bacary Sagna around him when Jérôme Boateng swung over the right-sided cross for Bayern to take the lead. On the verge of half-time, Lewandowski benefited from some fortune as the ball spun off his shoulder to loop over Hart but his run had been brilliant.

Bayern’s only real mistake in the first half came in the form of Benatia’s poor positioning and mistimed challenge after Frank Lampard had clipped the ball over the top for Agüero to scamper clear. It was the way City surrendered their lead that was startling. Their problem was getting any control or momentum in the middle and the atmosphere, once again, was strangely subdued for the most part.

Perhaps the climax to this game might help City’s crowd to start embracing this competition a little more. It needed something remarkable and Alonso duly provided it with the misjudgment that had Guardiola hopping with exasperation on the touchline. Alonso had made 94 passes whereas, to put it into context, Kompany had City’s best figures with 52. This one, however, was a terrible lapse and Agüero is too formidable an opponent to offer those kind of gifts.

A draw would have flattered City but then came the moment when the previously immaculate Boateng went to intercept a routine ball forward and promptly surrendered it to Agüero on the edge of his own penalty area. Agüero deserves great acclaim for his perseverance, with that stocky, muscular frame, before breaking clear with the ball and holding his nerve again. Neuer was beaten for a third time and City, the team that fights to the end, will go to Rome in a new and unexpected position of strength.
 
Lucky Toma said:
George Hannah said:
ColinLee said:
One for the conspiracy theorists in the Independent today : http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-hattrick-to-snatch-city-victory-9883301.html



I could have sworn he cut his legs out from under him but what do I know?
Little Sam - "Aguero looks like he's doing City a favour even turning up" - Wallace. A poisonous red dwarf hack often applauded by some numbnuts on here.


Don't usually mind Sam Wallace but his write-up today is definitely bitter in tone which is strange considering an English side pulled off a dramatic 'escape to victory' type turnaround against those pesky Germans. It's usually the kind of thing the press love.

What I will say might be a mitigating factor (as you'll know better than me George) is that perhaps it was bitter due to journos hating late drama in games, whoever is involved.
He'd have written out most of his copy centring on the majesty of Bayern and City in crisis only for Sergio to ruin it for him. The poor love.

Daniel taylor on 5 live after the game mentioned that all the journos had their copies ready to file at 85 mins. He admitted he had to completely rewrite his because the tone was now all wrong. Some probably rewrote more than others
 
Talksport last night was a shambles. Jason cundy was simply embarrassing, the first city fan they had on was slagging us off from front to back and then taking embarrassment to new heights they amazingly had a utd fan on who went to the match who went on to say how rubbish and pathetic the performance was. I couldn't believe what I was hearing, an English team in Europe getting a win at the death against bayern Munich, ok they had 10 men but to win in the manner we did surely warranted a positive response. But talksport and the English press was rubbing their hands with glee at 85 minutes and Sergio pissed on all their chips...
Fuck em all, the reaction last night was total embarrassment.
 
BBC Breakfast this morning saying if we beat Roma we could go through to the knockout stages for the first time in our club's history. That did irk me more than a bit. I mean, honestly, it's the BBC for fucks sake. Who writes that shit for them???
 
Chippy_boy said:
BBC Breakfast this morning saying if we beat Roma we could go through to the knockout stages for the first time in our club's history. That did irk me more than a bit. I mean, honestly, it's the BBC for fucks sake. Who writes that shit for them???
last year doesn't count, their collective short-term memory can't cope
 
Independent player ratings out of 10 from James Orr

Hart 4
Sagna 3
Kompany 4
Mangala 3
Clichy 5
Nasri 6
Fernando 4
Milner 7- Jovetic 5
Navas 7
Lampard 7
Aguero 9

Crushing City victory over CL favourites after conceding two freak goals - you'd never tell from these joke numbers

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/manchester-city-vs-bayern-munich-player-ratings-was-hattrick-hero-sergio-aguero-the-man-of-the-match-9883370.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 83370.html</a>
 
George Hannah said:
from the Guardian web site -

herrnasri_zps71482fed.jpg


<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theguardian.com/football/video/2014/nov/26/pep-guardiola-bayern-munich-manchester-city-video" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theguardian.com/football/vid ... city-video</a>?

from their odious Danny Boy

Manchester City beat Bayern Munich

The truly astonishing thing about what happened here in that wild, breathless finale is that, ignoring for one moment the extraordinary five-minute spell when Manchester City shocked maybe even themselves, it had been another night to expose their shortcomings in Europe. They had been out-passed, out-thought and frequently humbled by a Bayern side that were down to 10 men after 20 minutes and Manuel Pellegrini would have faced some difficult questions but for what happened next.

Many of those questions are still legitimate but if there is one thing that cannot be said of Pellegrini’s team it is that they lack qualities of perseverance. “We’ll fight to the end,” goes the song, and what a recovery in those last few minutes when Bayern Munich’s resolve disintegrated and Sergio Agüero turned this game upside down. It was the same net where Agüero had produced his 93:20 moment after the comeback of all comebacks. This one did not quite match the levels of hysteria but the euphoria, nonetheless, was extreme.[/size]

Agüero made it feel as though he must be immune to nerves on those two occasions when he ran clear to face Manuel Neuer, the best goalkeeper in his business. He had opened the scoring with a penalty and when everything was done his hat-trick had left City knowing that a scoring draw, when they face Roma in Stadio Olimpico, will be enough to qualify through the back door, as long as CSKA Moscow are incapable of beating Bayern in the Allianz Arena. The permutations are numerous and merely add to the chaotic feel of those final exchanges, when Pep Guardiola seemed to be straying dangerously close to the point of spontaneous combustion.

Bayern, even with 10 men, had an unerring knack of keeping the ball. Another team might have wilted after Mehdi Benatia was sent off for bringing down Agüero for his penalty. Bayern needed only a few minutes to shake their heads clear. They dominated possession – with 64% of the ball in the first half and 56% by the end – and Uefa’s statistics also showed the 10 men made 563 passes compared to City’s 403. Even in defeat, Bayern had left an impressive calling card.

They had also a midfielder in Xabi Alonso who demonstrated so much supreme control on the night of his 33rd birthday it felt almost absurd that he inadvertently set up Agüero’s second goal with a loose pass. Alonso’s free-kick to make it 1-1 was, in the vernacular of the schoolground, a pea-roller, played low and across the ground to pick out the bottom corner and expose some poor organisation between Joe Hart and his defensive wall. Yet Alonso’s contribution had been about much more than the equalising goal until he gave the ball to the substitute Stevan Jovetic and Agüero raced away to score with a left-footed finish.

Eleven-versus-eleven, Guardiola’s team had been strutting around to their own game of keep-ball. A man down, the Bundesliga champions seemed absolutely determined to show they could hold their own. City, in stark contrast, had looked erratic and prone to making mistakes. Alonso’s goal came from a foul by Fernando in a position where he should have been operating with more care and Robert Lewandowski had Vincent Kompany and Bacary Sagna around him when Jérôme Boateng swung over the right-sided cross for Bayern to take the lead. On the verge of half-time, Lewandowski benefited from some fortune as the ball spun off his shoulder to loop over Hart but his run had been brilliant.

Bayern’s only real mistake in the first half came in the form of Benatia’s poor positioning and mistimed challenge after Frank Lampard had clipped the ball over the top for Agüero to scamper clear. It was the way City surrendered their lead that was startling. Their problem was getting any control or momentum in the middle and the atmosphere, once again, was strangely subdued for the most part.

Perhaps the climax to this game might help City’s crowd to start embracing this competition a little more. It needed something remarkable and Alonso duly provided it with the misjudgment that had Guardiola hopping with exasperation on the touchline. Alonso had made 94 passes whereas, to put it into context, Kompany had City’s best figures with 52. This one, however, was a terrible lapse and Agüero is too formidable an opponent to offer those kind of gifts.

A draw would have flattered City but then came the moment when the previously immaculate Boateng went to intercept a routine ball forward and promptly surrendered it to Agüero on the edge of his own penalty area. Agüero deserves great acclaim for his perseverance, with that stocky, muscular frame, before breaking clear with the ball and holding his nerve again. Neuer was beaten for a third time and City, the team that fights to the end, will go to Rome in a new and unexpected position of strength.

For all their possession, Bayern created very few clear openings last night, which of course the media fail to point out. This was because for once City really hassled Bayern and did not let them create much with the possession they had. Arsenal created more against Utd on Saturday than Bayern did against City last night.

Can anyone recall a clear cut chance for Bayern outside of the 2 soft goals they scored ?

Also as for some "experts" implying City are a 1 Man team and could not cope without Aguero who "Gets us out of jail " as some have suggested.

Did we not win 2 trophies last season with Aguero injured for half the time ?

Are Barcelona a 1 man team when Messi scores a hat trick ?

Are Madrid a 1 man team because of Ronaldos' prolific goal scoring record ?

Silva, Kompany, Hart, Zabaleta and Toure etc all complete rubbish of course during their time at City and have never shown anything at any point !
 
The "narrative" has become "city flop in Europe". But it's not just the press, it's even sections of our fans.

I'm hoping last night is the springboard for us to start to fulfil our potential in this competition, and shut them all up.
 
George Hannah said:
Independent player ratings out of 10 from James Orr

Hart 4
Sagna 3
Kompany 4
Mangala 3
Clichy 5
Nasri 6
Fernando 4
Milner 7- Jovetic 5
Navas 7
Lampard 7
Aguero 9

Crushing City victory over CL favourites after conceding two freak goals - you'd never tell from these joke numbers

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/manchester-city-vs-bayern-munich-player-ratings-was-hattrick-hero-sergio-aguero-the-man-of-the-match-9883370.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 83370.html</a>

Sagna and Clichy had excellent games last night and but for Aguero's achievements either could be justified as man of the match (and I have thought both of the 2 full backs would have been liabilities last night, but no, they played their best games of the season) . Both full backs 8 or 9 out of 10.

Managala had a good game as did Lampard and Navas (all 3, 7 or 8 out of 10)
 
The media are getting even more desperate, we didnt get any plaudits for winning our 2nd premiership in 3 seasons , and we continually piss on their chips , when we perform miracles on the pitch .If yooonited had beaten Bayern , the headlines would be "last gasp heroes" etc. etc. so f*ck the media , we know their agenda , they just like to keep their customers happy , what matters is what we think of our club , the media can go to hell.
 
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